Brannon's guest is John Loeffler. John begins by describing how progressive socialists believe in the perfectibility of mankind. They feel we’re getting better but when you look at the amount of violence in the world this just isn’t the case. This is Darwinian evolution applied to society and includes the dialectical (thesis-antithesis-synthesis) ideas that some churches are embracing today. These ideas are really old concepts that have been repackaged so that some of them even sound as though they are Christian. They are part of a process of deception designed to move people to a predetermined outcome that most people aren’t aware of. From here the conversation moves to the late Peter Drucker. He mentored Pastor Rick Warren who is known for his “felt needs” method of church growth. Brannon also explains how the seeker friendly church movement has set up the conflict between sound theology and man centered theology in order to move Christians to the left. This is just a brief look at some of the points mentioned as Brannon and John examine the pressures that are being put upon all of us to compromise our values in order to accommodate societal evolution.