How American Christians and Conservatives Are Losing Their Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech
Brannon Howse: Good evening. And welcome to our Situation Room briefing for tonight. I know many of you are joining us tonight that had anticipated seeing us live in Green Bay, Wisconsin on Saturday night. Last night. Tonight, Minneapolis, St. Paul and tomorrow night, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
We were able to accomplish only one of the five cities we set out to speak in this past week. We started out Thursday night in Des Moines, Iowa. And that event came off. We’ll tell you about it. My guest will be Chris Gaubatz. He infiltrated CAIR undercover. But we were not able to carry out our conferences because of groups like CAIR, a front group for Muslim brotherhood. Working with the Southern Poverty Law Center and known Marxist, Community Antifa groups, self-identified Antifa groups, managed to intimidate, and we heard, make threats against the hotels we had contracted to hold our conferences at.
I’ve been hosting Worldview Weekend rallies since, well, February 1993. That’s 25 years this past February. In all of our time we’ve never seen anything like this, other than when a Muslim man from Saudi Arabia came into our conference a year ago—April of last year, in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. He came in and he had his Quran. He filmed the Quran and then he, on Facebook Live after filming the Quran, panned the crowd. You can, in the video footage hear my voice. I’m speaking upfront. It’s standing room only. Men, women and children are in the room.
Thankfully one of our off-duty police officers we hired saw him, asked him to please stop filming as that was the instructions before the meeting started. And then asked him if he was carrying. Indeed, he was carrying two weapons. He was legal to carry those in South Dakota. But what he did next was not.
On Facebook Live he went out into the parking lot and he made a series of videos–two to be precise–in which he brandished five weapons, including two semiautomatic rifles. And on his Facebook page said he had 1,200 rounds of ammunition. With every brandishing of a weapon he told Shahram Hadian, the former Muslim now Christian pastor, and myself to ‘be afraid’ or ‘be terrified.’ The next day, the police spokesperson on camera in Sioux Falls told the press that the man had broken no laws. Yet, a state representative and a state senator there that night said otherwise.
After 12 days, finally, and an international story that we made of this, the man was arrested. However, you might be shocked to find out he was only charged with that terroristic threat and given seven months at the federal level time served.
So I guess they were emboldened. They knew they could get away with it. The Marxists, the Muslims, Antifa. And our governments would do very little about it, if anything, a slap on the wrist.
So as we pulled into the Holiday Inn Convention Center in Des Moines on Thursday afternoon with our conference starting in hours, we received an email and then a phone call from the hotel that we have used once before in Green Bay, Wisconsin, notifying us that they were canceling our contract. Breaching our contract I think is more precise. And not going to allow us to hold our event because they’ve got some complaints.
Well, that was Thursday afternoon. By Friday morning we received an email and a phone call that a hotel we’ve been using for many, many years, Country Springs Hotel, by the way it was the Radisson Convention Center in Green Bay if you want to know. Friday morning it was the Country Springs Hotel in Pewaukee, a suburb of Milwaukee that we’ve used many times that called and said, due to the number of complaints or people I guess making threats, the management was canceling.
In both cases I informed the management that we had spent thousands of dollars promoting these two conferences. In fact, we mailed 40,000 copies of this magazine in December 2017. That’s how far in advance we were promoting. We then mailed 40,000 copies of this magazine in January 2018. That’s 80,000 magazines printed and mailed to promote these five cities. Do you know what that cost?
We then had the speakers in town ready to go. And after they were successful (the Antifa groups, Southern Poverty Law Center, CAIR) in shutting down our conference in Green Bay and Milwaukee, they turned their attention to the Omni Center in Onalaska, Wisconsin.
The Onalaska officials called us. I think we’d had the city administrator, the chief of police, and I think at one time maybe even the mayor, all in a room talking to me. And they asked for earlier in the day that morning, Friday morning, they asked for my certificate of liability. Very rarely are we asked for that, but when we are, we send it. We sent it. Over a million dollar policy or I think it was right at a million dollars. They then said, in fact, their name was on the liability policy. Omni Center. We had our insurance company send it to them.
We received a phone call that it wasn’t quite what they needed and how are we gonna work that out with just a few hours to go before the doors opened? They said they’d received 57 phone calls in approximately an hour and a half to two hours of opening their offices Friday morning. Then all the attention turned toward shutting down the Minneapolis, St. Paul conference. Ironically, we started in February 1993 in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
We were watching social media. Many people were. And informing us of various Antifa groups that were threatening that conference, Muslim groups, and they were alerting some of the most well-known Imams and their mosques in the Minneapolis area.
We convened, Chris Gaubatz, myself and a couple of the other speakers. Gathered in a room at the Holiday Inn Convention Center in Des Moines, Iowa, where I broadcast my radio show live that day on about 25 to 30 Christian stations nationwide. We decided that the threat to the conference in Minneapolis was too great. We had been asked to hire police officers, which we do on most occasions. But this time we were asked to hire quite a few of them. We were able to pare that back a little bit, but as the threat increased we believed we didn’t have enough. In fact, we were informed by the hotel that a state trooper had stopped into the hotel in Bloomington and warned the hotel that whoever’s sponsoring this had better have plenty of police on hand because we’re getting information about a lot of Muslims, a lot of Islamic groups showing up.
Once the Antifa groups got involved, we knew that it was gonna be difficult for us to secure that facility for ourselves, our family and most importantly, those of you that wanted to attend. So my friends, this is how it goes in America today. Ironically, we had announced that these would be our last five free conferences to ever host due to the security problems and the increasing issues we were seeing arise. So we were gonna do five cities, our most popular cities, thank all of you, and then do one national conference a year. Other than that we would come to you through our live streaming, our national radio show on terrestrial radio and our digital platform every day, and then the programs we produce right here out of this TV studio. Those five cities never happened. Only one out of five.
Joining me now to explain how this strategy works, what their goal is, is Chris Gaubatz. He’s been on Sean Hannity’s radio show and television show several times. His life story of infiltrating CAIR, the Council on Islamic Relations undercover, is detailed in the best selling book by his father and Paul Sperry, Muslim Mafia. Chris joins us tonight via Skype from his home on the east coast. Chris, thank you for joining us.
Chris Gaubatz: Well, thank you so much for having me on, Brannon.
Brannon Howse: Tell me what you think about what just happened to us in the cities. You’ve heard my thoughts. I think our listening friends tonight want to hear yours.
Chris Gaubatz: Yeah. So what we speak about when I talk about the Muslim brotherhood groups, working with the hard left Marxist socialist groups like Black Lives Matter and Antifa, their goal is, and has been, to shut the discussion down. Right. So this is an example of these two movements, the Islamic movement and the Marxist movement coming together to shut down a discussion about the threat. Whether it’s the Islamic threat or the Marxist threat. Because we spoke about both on this evening, and we were gonna speak about both of these threats throughout these different tours.
One of the things I really like to emphasize, Brannon, when we talk about the Muslim brotherhood, I don’t want that term to gloss over. Many of your viewers and listeners are aware of this group, but I want to reiterate, when I say the term ‘Muslim brotherhood’ and groups like CAIR that oppose me speaking about this threat and other Muslim brotherhood groups oppose me, like the Islamic Society of North America, ISNA, and Muslim Students Association. But this is a group that has the exact same ideology as Al Qaeda and the Islamic state. The only difference is typically this group, who believes in jihad or total warfare to eliminate all non-Islamic governments and replace them with sharia law, the only difference is that the Muslim brotherhood is also good at other types of warfare. Not just shooting things and blowing things up. Not just kinetic warfare. But also intelligence gathering. We call them ‘suit wearing jihadis.’ These are guys that are gonna work on Capitol Hill and they’re gonna work with legislators, they’re gonna work with the FBI, they’re gonna work with DHS, law enforcement. And they’re also gonna do this at the local level. Which is what you saw when you had meetings with the mayor and local law enforcement. These groups know that they can influence them as well. I mean, what did you say? Fifty-seven phone calls is all it took to shut down free speech.
Brannon Howse: That’s right. Fifty-seven phone calls in about an hour and a half to two hours I was told by the people at the Omni Center in Onalaska, Wisconsin.
Chris Gaubatz: Yeah. These groups understand that if they – it doesn’t take a lot to shut down free speech. To shut down this discussion. What it takes is coordination. And we saw that and it was well-timed. It was well coordinated. And that’s what they do. They shut down the discussion because they understand this is a war of narratives. One narrative says that Islam, jihad, sharia is not the problem or that there’s no problem with Marxism and communism. And one narrative is the truth. Which is that these movements are necessarily trying to destroy western civilization and trying to destroy the republic here at home.
Brannon Howse: So, Chris, let’s talk about the Muslim brotherhood memorandum. It was written in 1991, but it was not discovered until 2004. Some off duty police officers I understand were going over a bridge. The Chesapeake Bridge, was it not?
Chris Gaubatz: That’s right. In 2004 there were two maritime police officers noticed something suspicious on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge. They pulled over a Muslim and his wife. The Muslim was a man, Ismael Barasi. Ismael L. Barasi was wanted on a Hamas witness warrant out of Chicago. And so the FBI subsequently raided his home and found a treasure trove of Muslim brotherhood documents. And one of those is one that you mentioned. The Explanatory Memorandum—which outlines the Muslim brotherhood’s goal to destroy western civilization from within, and this is their words, “to sabotage our miserable house by their hands.” Our hands.
So they want to get our leaders to do their bidding for them. And look, we saw this just in this one example right here. It wasn’t the Muslim brotherhood and it wasn’t the Marxists and Antifa, Black Lives Matter groups that shut the conference down. It was these hotels. And these city leaders and local law enforcement that were concerned and getting you to change your policy at the last minute. They want to get us to do their bidding for them. And this is the perfect example of that.
Brannon Howse: So what you’re saying, again, just to reiterate for folks to understand, Muslim Brotherhood, which is a front, has many front groups. Muslim Student Associations. Council on American Islamic Relations. Islamic Society of North America. They have many front groups. International Institute of Islamic Thought. Their document – by the way, Muslim Brotherhood, don’t forget, was founded in 1928 by al-Banna. And they worked with Adolf Hitler to carry out the final solution in the murder of 5 million Jews. They worked with the Grand Mufti of Palestine who had an apartment in Berlin, a broadcast in Berlin given to him by Adolf Hitler. And he was involved in the systematic slaughter of 5 million Jews. Some reports, I’ve even seen it on the History Channel, say that Hitler was gonna let the Jews leave Bulgaria and Hungary, but the Grand Mufti said absolutely not. They’ll go over to Palestine. He didn’t want the Jews there. And so he urged them to fire up the ovens and to exterminate instead of, well, instead of exporting them, they wanted to terminate them. The Grand Mufti of the Muslim Brotherhood from Palestine. That’s the Muslim Brotherhood, folks.
They also translated Hitler’s book, Mein Kampf, into Arabic and spread it all over the Arab world. The Palestinian Liberation Organization just a few years ago was still, and we have screenshots of it, publishing and distributing Hitler’s Mein Kampf to My Jihad. My struggle was translated to My Jihad and is still being distributed throughout the Arab world in Arabic.
This is Muslim Brotherhood. They came to America and they’ve been waging war to bring us from the lower house to the upper house where they have control. They’re getting it. The police officers, or at least the police administration, the city officials and the business community and the media, completely capitulated to the Muslims in Sioux Falls, and that’s why we took to calling them ‘Saudi Falls, South Dakota.’
We did some research when we got home last April and found out a Saudi prince had gone in there and they were spending millions upon millions and millions of dollars in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. No wonder the coward politicians who now control our police departments have been bought.
Well, this is how you move from the lower house to the upper house. And this is how, as you hear from Chris Gaubatz, who infiltrated CAIR, a Muslim Brotherhood front group, he infiltrated them undercover, this is how you move from the lower house to the upper house. By getting Americans to do their bidding and to destroy our miserable house, sabotage our miserable house by our own hands. That’s what they say.
Chris, when they moved from the lower house to the upper house, and we’re helping them do it as Americans, what does that actually mean?
Chris Gaubatz: Well, we have to remember the entire purpose of the creation of Muslim Brotherhood was to restore the caliphate. You know that we had a global Islamic caliphate that was dissolved by Kemal Atatürk in 1924 in Turkey. And the Muslim Brotherhood was created in 1928 in Cairo, Egypt, as you said, by Hassan al-Banna to restore the caliphate. And what is the purpose of the caliphate? To expand Islamic territory until the entire non-Islamic world, which by the way under Islamic terms is called the ‘dar al harb,’ the house of war, all lands not under Islamic rule are called the ‘dar al harb,’ the house of war. And the caliphate is to wage jihad–warfare against non-Muslims–until the entire dar al harb is eliminated and Islamic rule is the law of the land everywhere.
That is the purpose of the Muslim Brotherhood, right? So what are they working on here in the United States? That same purpose for which they were created in 1928. So they are going to work with these Marxist movements to destroy western civilization from within. And for those of you that don’t think this is possible, I want you to look over at Europe right now and see what’s happening with Europe. Look at what’s going on in Sweden, in the UK, France, Germany. The refugee resettlement, which is in Islamic terms called a ‘hegira,’ a migration or immigration for the establishment of the religion.
This is a well-organized movement that is well funded. We’re talking to the tune of hundreds of millions and billions of dollars. This is not something that’s going away any time soon. And they are not working alone. This is a movement that you’ve literally written the book on, Brannon, that works with the Marxist movement that is well organized, well-funded and has been at this for decades.
Brannon Howse: Yeah. Absolutely. Well, what’s so interesting, Chris, and, again, Chris Gaubatz is my guest. You might want to get a copy of the book, Muslim Mafia, written by his father and Paul Sperry that detail his undercover work for six months. He grew the sharia beard and infiltrated CAIR, Council on American Islamic Relations, undercover. By the way, let’s remind those new who are listening, we will – normally The Situation Room on Sunday nights, 8:00 PM, is available for anyone to watch live. And then after that if you don’t see it live it goes to our Situation Room for members only. Tonight, we are going to post-edit this and we will put it all over our websites. Everywhere. Free of charge for everyone to watch on the rebroadcast. The Antifa groups. That’s a communist group. Many Americans are not aware of the fact. Antifa. Antifa some say. Anti-fascist. That’s short for anti-fascists. So we’re the fascists they say. We’re for censorship. We’re for shutting people down. Have we ever censored anyone? Have we ever shut anyone down? No, we have not. And yet out there in Des Moines in front of the hotel on Thursday night were some useful idiots of the Muslims, (that’s a historical term). Useful idiots for the Muslims and the Marxists. And maybe they were Marxists. We had some Marxists that came into our conference. We’ll tell you about that.
But they were holding signs talking about us being Nazis. Well, isn’t that interesting because it was actually the Muslim Brotherhood that was working with the Nazis and CAIR tried and did shut us down. CAIR is Muslim Brotherhood. They are the Islamo neo-Nazis. As I already said, they worked with Adolf Hitler. But yet they call us the fascists. That we want to shut down free speech. No, look who shut down the free speech.
Isn’t it ironic, Chris, that the whole purpose of our five city tour was to warn Americans about the loss of religious liberty, freedom of speech, the right to peaceful assembly by terrorists, communists, Marxists, Antifa thugs? And what did they do? They stopped freedom of speech, freedom of religion and the peaceful assembly of Americans. They made our point.
I know they think they won. But trust me, this – these folks, these thugs, these communists, these Marxists, these Islamo neo-Nazis, they have not won. The backlash is already coming. Our social media pages are increasing. Emails are coming in. Our donations are coming in. And folks, we will be producing this April, and have out by next fall, a brand new movie. We’ve already picked the name. We’ve got 12 experts. Antifa, Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, all these groups, what they have done in the end will be a gift to us. Cause it shows Americans who the true Islamo-Nazis-Fascists-Marxists are. Do you agree, Chris?
Chris Gaubatz: Absolutely. Look, one thing everyone has to understand that is watching this is this isn’t about facts or truth or logic. You said it in the very beginning right there. That we were gonna talk about religious liberty, freedom of speech, the foundations that this country was built on. That this is a Christian nation built on, and our laws are based on Judeo-Christian values. That’s why they want to shut it down. That’s why Marxists and Jihadis are gonna coalesce to shut it down. Because that is completely antithetical to their movement.
These movements do not care about free speech. They care about speech that agrees with them. For them, free speech is saying anything that they agree with. Anything that they disagree with is hate speech. Which they push that term ‘hate speech’ constantly. And this, in their world, hate speech is anything that disagrees with their movement. So under the Islamic movement, hate speech would be blasphemy laws under sharia. Anything that they disagree with.
On the progressive Marxist, socialist, Antifa side of their world, this movement, then hate speech is anything that sheds light on the dangers of Marxism–that sheds light on the historic facts of how many millions and millions of people have lost their lives and been brutally oppressed by Marxist ideology. Whether it was under Lenin or Stalin or any of these other dictators that – these movements, these communist movements that have arisen around the world. Anyone that speaks truthfully about that from a historic standpoint for them, that is hate speech.
Brannon Howse: Let’s talk about Antifa again. Because the Antifa groups, like Antifa of Fox Valley, were sending out tweets, and of course that really concerned the hotels because Antifa groups are known for violence. Antifa groups are communist groups. They wear the black masks. The black outfits. And they get quite violent. Well, don’t forget that the Antifa groups, they go all the way back to Adolf Hitler. They were the ones opposing Hitler. The communists were opposing, as Antifa, were opposing Hitler’s National Socialist Workers Party. When Hitler took over, many of them jumped over to his side. So the history of Antifa goes all the way back to Adolf Hitler, and many of them ended up joining his side.
So notice again, Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, these groups coming against us worked with Adolf Hitler. Antifa, many of them back in Hitler’s day, opposed him and then when he took over and became the dominant power, they joined him. So the groups that are really prone to Naziism and worked with the Nazis are indeed the groups that came against us. But yet many Americans don’t know their history.
In our meeting on Thursday night we did have two police officers that we hired. They did an incredible job. Probably wasn’t wise on our part, but some of the Muslims and some of the Marxists were able to get into our conference, and we knew right away who they were. But we told them upfront with the police that if they sat quietly and did not disrupt they could stay. We probably should have removed them, and in going forward at any of our conferences, which again we’re not doing any more free conferences, but they will not be allowed to be there. Period. That’s why we’re going all to paid conferences so we know who they are and who’s in the room. But we let them stay.
Throughout the evening the Marxists and Muslims, many of them sat on the front row. Some were in the back of the room, but many sat on the very front row. Some of them held up books and newspapers to be a distraction the whole evening. Others decided to interrupt. But none of the Muslims did that–it was only the Marxists that did this. This seems to be the trend. The communists and the Marxists are the mouthpiece for the Muslims. The Muslims sat there quietly acting all peaceful while the Marxists did their bidding. Did you notice that, Chris?
Chris Gaubatz: Oh, absolutely. I mean this is something, you know the executive director of CAIR, Hamas here in the United States, the Council on American Islamic Relations, who I worked undercover there for six months. So I absolutely know CAIR inside and out. In fact, I worked right outside of Nihad Awad’s offices. Nihad Awad made it very clear at a Muslim Brotherhood conference that when he got on the stage and Black Lives Matter is our matter, Black Lives Matter is our campaign. And that’s a quote. Black Lives Matter is a Marxist revolutionary organization. And so when he made that claim he made it very clear that they’re working together, they’re with them, they stand with them side by side in solidarity as they would say, to shut down the discussion. And by the way, when they have signs outside calling us Nazis, understand from their perspective anyone that voted for President Trump or anyone that supports the President Trump’s administration in any way, shape or form, is a Nazi.
This is a terrorist organization, Antifa, a terrorist organization that is terrorizing people working with Hamas here in the United States, to disrupt anyone that is speaking truthfully about these movements. Which is why, Brannon, I’m so passionate about what we’re doing right now which is just speaking the truth and letting your viewers and the people that are watching right now decide for themselves.
Brannon Howse: Absolutely. One of the things you told me this week and I found very interesting I said this to you. I said, can you imagine 17 years after 9/11, if someone had told you the day after 9/11, 9/11, September 11, 2001, if someone told you the next day, September 12, 2001, that in, well, 17 years, Americans will not be able to hold a conference exposing the agenda of Islam without being shut down. That police departments would capitulate to them. The media would be on their side. And businesses would cave to their demands. If I told you that the day after 9/11 you would have said that’s crazy.
In fact, Chris, you told me this weekend that when you were undercover inside CAIR they actually admitted that the terrorist attacks that brought down the World Trade Centers, the plane that was flown into the Pentagon and flown into the field in Pennsylvania, actually gave them more converts. Will you tell our audience about that please?
Chris Gaubatz: Well, this was a common theme as I traveled around mosques in the northern Virginia area. And that was part of my job for CAIR was that I was working outreach. So on behalf of CAIR, Hamas, I was going to different mosques in the northern Virginia area. And this was a common theme that Muslims would just talk about. That they were really excited about the fact that they had gained so many new converts after 9/11. I mean, think about that. That they were excited – which it doesn’t surprise me. Because I understand Islam. I understand jihad. I understand sharia. Of course that’s one of the aspects of jihad. You do a spectacular attack like that and it’s going to draw attention to Islam. And some of the people that knew nothing about Islam, they would tell me, would get curious about Islam. They would go to the mosque. And then you would have mosque attendees that would be pleasant and kind and they would talk to them, even though their own books that also talk about jihad and waging warefare, some of those books also talk about how to draw people in by being pleasant and kind. Even teaching them how to lie to non-Muslims when they first come and ask questions about Islam. That’s how they got converts.
So they were excited about the fact that 3,000 people were dead after 9/11 and that that actually increased their membership numbers and converts here. It’s absolutely disgusting, Brannon.
Brannon Howse: Well, isn’t that the truth? All right. So let’s talk about what they’re doing. They say that if they can take over 4 to 5 percent of a population then they can really run a town. They’re doing that in places like Sioux Falls and others. Did you hear that figure? If they could run the population up to 4 or 5 percent in a community they could have a lot of control?
Chris Gaubatz: Oh, absolutely. I mean, look, it rolls – it goes to this. The more influence that they have in a community, the stronger they’re going to be able to do what they did tonight. And once you get to a tipping point where everyone is terrified to even speak about the threat, then they know they’ve already won. Which is why it’s so concerning to see what’s going on in Europe right now where they have actual hate speech laws where people are terrified, intimidated and even arrested for speaking truthfully about Islam. And so we’re starting to see that here. And, again, I really want to reiterate were it not for the Marxist indoctrination that has taken place over the last several decades, really that began even in the 40s and 50s in this country, the jihadis wouldn’t stand a chance.
But that’s where we’re at today. That’s – this is the result of the Marxist influence and indoctrination into the last few generations of Americans to where the jihadis know that they can ride the coattails of the Marxist movement right into what they see as revolution. Now, after that revolution the jihadis certainly feel like they’re going to take over and the Marxists feel like they’ll be in control. But in the meantime they will work together like they did to shut down this event. And they’re doing this all over the country, by the way. This is just one example of what they’re doing.
Brannon Howse: Let’s talk about Jet Pack. Are you familiar with this Jet Pack program where they say if they can win local elections, cause a lot of people don’t go out for local elections. They just stay at home and don’t vote. That if they go out and get their Muslims, their Islamic neo-Nazi Muslims to run for office, then they can run the police department. They can run the city council, the mayor’s office that controls the police of chief, that controls the police department, they can run the schools. Are you familiar with this program, Jet Pack?
Chris Gaubatz: I am. And I gotta tell you they’re absolutely right. I mean the war right now, whether it’s conservatives or whether it’s the hard left or whether it’s the ‘suit-wearing jihadis,’ the war is at the local level. It’s going to be won or lost county by county, state by state. Do we need to be involved in federal politics or, you know at the national level politics? Of course. We can’t seed that. But understand we will win or lose this war at the local level, and they understand that just as well.
So who controls the board of supervisors will determine whether or not or how fast mosques go up. And they understand that. They understand who controls city council and the mayor’s officers. Even PTAs and library boards. They understand that those people control the information at the local level. Who controls law enforcement at the local level, the narrative at local level, will win the day at the end.
And so you’ll see, you know, look at Berkeley as an example. When they had riots out there and, or look at other areas where law enforcement was told to stand down. They understand that if you control every aspect of the local community you win. And they understand that. It’s about time that our side understands that and really starts working to make sure that we get good conservatives in local elected positions.
Brannon Howse: Yeah. Absolutely. My guest is Chris Gaubatz. He infiltrated CAIR undercover. He was supposed to be speaking tonight in Minneapolis, St. Paul, along with Jimmy DeYoung and myself, Shahram Hadian. Shahram Hadian, by the way, is a former Muslim from Iran, now Christian pastor out of Washington State. He was supposed to have been speaking. We were going to have an afternoon session with Chris and John. And then a 20 minute break and reset for Jimmy DeYoung, myself and Shahram.
I would like to play a short video of Shahram Hadian. Shahram recorded this yesterday. And I would like to play it for our audience today so you can hear what Shahram Hadian, the former Muslim from Iran, now Christian pastor has to say about what happened to the events for which he was also going to speak.
Shahram Hadian: Hi, everyone. This is Pastor Shahram Hadian with the Truth in Love ministry. I wanted to share with you today this special video announcement that I’m actually recording from the state of Minnesota. I’ve been here the last few days for some speaking engagements and we were scheduled to have some other speaking engagements with Worldview Weekend, Brannon Howse’s ministry, along also with John Guandolo and Chris Gaubatz. Our ministry, the Truth in Love Project, was supposed to be speaking in several cities along with them. And we were shut down.
Who shut us down, folks? The Islamo Marxist fascist oppressors in this nation. The same groups that we’ve been warning you about. The same groups that we’ve been trying to travel around this nation and warn you about, shut us down.
How did that happen? Started with CAIR. The Council on the American Islamic Relations–the front group for the Muslim Brotherhood. Then they’ve joined with Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC. They started putting on their website within the last 48 hours to put calls into the venues and the hotels that we were gonna be speaking to get us shut down–to say we’re gonna protest–or potentially even hint at violence.
Then they got Antifa involved. Antifa started getting their folks to call in and put pressure. And we know what Antifa does, right? We know their M.O. They’re domestic terrorists. And so because of this in the last 48 hours we got word that the Worldview Weekend in Green Bay was canceled. The hotel pulled out within less than 36 hours. Then the hotel in Milwaukee canceled on us-the hotel where Brannon’s been meeting for years. Then the city of Onalaska where they were gonna be meeting was canceled.
And then finally, we decided because the SPLC that has listed our organization and many others as hate groups, they were calling local mosques trying to get them riled up, to show up, to threaten our event, to protest our event, to make it dangerous. The hotel had already demanded that Brannon hire two police officers. It became too dangerous because Bloomington, Minnesota is a hotbed for Islamic radicalization. It is the number one basically conglomeration of the Somali community. And it is the area where the most Somalis have been radicalized and have been going over to fight with ISIS.
It was a dangerous place to begin with. And we did not feel we can trust law enforcement. The word that we got was the sheriff in that county has been compromised and is on the side of the jihadis. We were not sure if we could trust even the Bloomington Police Department. So we had to make a tough decision to finally cancel Bloomington.
So, folks, if you think that we are living in a free nation anymore, if you think this is the land of the free and the home of the brave, we better wake up soon. Religious liberty, the right of assembly, the right of our speech is gone. This is the MO now. This is the tactic that they are using to shut us down. And for the temporary time it has worked. Because they were able to intimidate these hotels and these venues to pull these contracts with less than 48 hours. There was no time to recover. There was no time to book somewhere else. And that’s their MO.
Are you ready for this, church? Are you ready for this, pastor? Are you ready for this, Christian? This is the new America that you’re living in. And too many Christians are sitting in their churches, too many pastors are sitting in their pulpits thinking they’re safe, they’re fine, everything’s good to go, and it’s gonna be coming to your neighborhood soon. It’s gonna be in your face soon.
And who is aiding and abetting these Islamo Marxists? Who is aiding and abetting these Islamo fascists? Because isn’t this fascism? Doesn’t this remind you of 1930s Germany all over again? Didn’t the Muslim Brotherhood work with the Nazis in World War II? This is their MO. Who’s working with them? The interfaith coalitions. The liberal churches. Like the ELCA church that was trying to protest and shut my event down a couple nights ago in Montevideo, Minnesota. By the way, good news, they couldn’t do it. They couldn’t succeed. And an event that the organizers were expecting maybe 100, 270 showed up–exceeding the capacity of the room.
They’re going to these churches. Mobilizing Christian activists. Christian activities. To turn on who? To turn on you and me. Conservative, Bible believing Christians. We are the targets now. We’re the targets. So this is their MO. We’re not going away. And by the way, we are working on – I was on the phone with Brannon two hours yesterday. We are gonna be working on a documentary. We’re gonna have national and international speakers put together a documentary on the Islamic threat, on the Muslim Brotherhood, on the Islamo fascist coalition that’s coming together. This Islamo Marxist coalition. And, oh, by the way, we’re gonna be exposing the interfaith coalitions, including the likes of James White, who had this interfaith dialogue with Yasir Qadhi. They’re more worried about Muslims being supposedly persecuted than the actual persecution of Christians that is happening around the world and now in America, folks. If what happened to us this last 48 hours doesn’t show you that there is Christian persecution in America, I don’t know what will. Until they start arresting us. Until they start coming in and shutting down our churches.
Christian, wake up. Pastor, wake up. So stay tuned for more information about this documentary. We’re already beginning the process of it. It’s gonna be filmed soon. And we’re gonna go on the offensive. We are not gonna take this lying down. Just like we came after Sioux Falls last year, what happened to us there with the heavily armed Muslim man, we went on the offensive. We went public with it. We’re gonna go public with this. We’re gonna fight back. Because silence in the face of evil is evil itself. As believers, we cannot be silent.
Brannon Howse: All right. So that is Shahram Hadian. And he recorded that yesterday from the Twin Cities. Now we’re joined back again with Chris Gaubatz. Let’s, again, remind you folks that what happened, for those just joining us, is we had five cities to go to in five nights. On Islam and many other topics. The Marxists and Muslims. I was speaking on the Marxists. And they were gonna speak in Islam. And Shahram was gonna join us. And Jimmy DeYoung was gonna join us in Minneapolis and Milwaukee.
The Southern Poverty Law Center sent out an alert. They got CAIR involved. They got Antifa groups. They threatened the hotels–from what we were told–put pressure on them. And they caved like a house of cards. And so this is how, again, the Muslims said in their memorandum in ’91 that was found in 2004 in a subbasement in northern Virginia, that they would get Americans to destroy our own miserable house. To sabotage our own miserable house. Talking about our country being a house. Sabotage our own country with our own hands. And that’s exactly what’s happening.
Chris, basically they want sharia. Explain what sharia is and explain how Americans are now self-implementing sharia.
Chris Gaubatz: Sure. So sharia simply put is Islamic law. It’s derived from the Quran, which Muslims believe is the uncreated word of Allah, their god. And the Sunna. And the Sunna are just the sayings and teachings of Mohammed. So whatever Mohammed did, whatever Mohammed said, whatever Mohammed condoned, what Mohammed forbade is good behavior for all time. That is what the sharia is.
Sharia covers every aspect of life. Social, cultural, political, military and religious. So when we talk about sharia, understand this is a totalitarian system. This is – I always – when people ask me about comparisons and how to understand sharia, the closest comparison I can make is to a totalitarian system like communism. Which is–they’re natural partners with communists, with Marxists, because they’re totalitarian systems.
Brannon Howse: And of course part of the strategy we see here is the steps of persecution. You marginalize. That’s what they sought to do to us. You vilify. You guys are a bunch of Nazis, islamophobics, islamophobia. Of course islamophobia is a term that was created by the International Institute of Islamic Thought in the early 90s to try to portray anyone that speaks the truth about Islam as having a phobia. An unreasonable fear.
So you marginalize. You vilify. And then eventually you criminalize what we’re saying. And then you normalize. That’s the new norm. But what we’re seeing now is Americans are not gonna have to be forced into being submissive through prosecution. Most of them will submit to Islam through political correctness. Agree?
Chris Gaubatz: Oh, absolutely. So to answer your original question you just asked a moment ago. So when we shut down a free speech event, when we shut down an event where we’re talking about religious liberty, national security, we’re self-censoring. We’re the ones that are submitting to Islamic law. Not we–obviously you and I, Brannon–but the people, the hotels that cave, the local communities that put pressure on those hotels to shut the event down. That is us, Americans, submitting to Islamic law. And if you were to ask these same people – if you were to tell these same people that shut these events down that they were actually submitting to Islamic law, they wouldn’t understand what you’re talking about. Because they don’t understand. You used the term earlier, the useful idiot aspect covers a large spectrum. And this is one of them.
Let’s talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center. What can you tell our audience about the Southern Poverty Law Center? What’s their net worth? Where have they put their money? Who are they? Cause they really ramped things up. CAIR was kinda on to this. But Southern Poverty Law Center really seemed to bring out the Antifa groups. Who – for those who don’t know, what is the Southern Poverty Law Center?
Chris Gaubatz: So in a nutshell, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become a hard left group that essentially labels any conservative group an extremist and a hater. Now fortunately the Department of Defense has purged or no longer uses Southern Poverty Law Center for training. But they did up until very recently. And so this is a group that has had a lot of pull, a lot of weight as far as training programs within the federal government. Thank goodness they’re no longer in the federal government. This is a fringe group that essentially labels anyone that speaks truthfully about Islam, because they’re partnering. This is a leftist group that’s partners with Islamic movements. And anyone that speaks against the narrative of the progressive Marxist movement.
So, for instance, Ben Carson has been labeled as an extremist by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Family Research Council was labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Anyone that speaks truthfully about Islam or the progressive movement is a hate group. And they use that to vilify their opponent so that any time someone googles the name of someone that the Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled a hate group, then for people that aren’t informed like you and I are about these movements, the United States don’t want the controversy so they move on. And they know that and that’s what they’re doing with it.
Brannon Howse: Well, Shahram Hadian–who we just heard from on video–he’s been labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Our friend Usama Dakdok, born and raised in Egypt. Expert on Islam. Arabic speaking. He’s been labeled a hate group. I mean Robert Spencer. One of the leading experts on Islam. A regular friend of ours. He’s been labeled a hate group, right? I mean all these people I’ve just mentioned are on this list of being hate groups.
Chris Gaubatz: When you get out into this realm and you speak truth about these threats, at some point the Southern Poverty Law Center, if you make enough noise, they will label you a hate group or a hate individual or – and they know what they’re doing. They’re smearing, they’re vilifying. And they will smear and vilify anyone that opposes them. That’s what this movement is about.
Brannon Howse: Now folks, again, we were announcing that we were gonna do five cities–that would be the end of our free conferences. We’ve been doing conferences since 1993. February of ’93 we started in Minneapolis. In 2008, approximately 2008, we started doing free conferences. And we started a foundation that would underwrite those. We’d take an offering, but we never – you know a lot of times we didn’t break even. The hotel ballrooms were three grand. Then you add up the printing and mailing of magazines and radio spots and all that. It adds up. So we weren’t in it for the money. Of course the liberals all were saying on social media that we’re all a bunch of greedy people just trying to make money. And yet we were losing money on these cities.
But these were gonna be our last five conferences, because what finally put it over the edge for us is the added expense of all the security that the hotels demanded. And that’s if the hotels would let us rent their buildings. In a lot of cases they would send us a contract. Sure, not a problem. The date’s available. We agree to the cost. They send us a contract. Before we could even get the contract signed and sent back to them they would call and say, oh, wait a minute, we researched your group. You’re not a good fit. You can’t rent our building. Well, now we’re finding out if we get the building rented, it might be pulled from us.
So we were – and if they did let us have the building, like Bloomington was gonna let us. Marriott, Airport Marriott was gonna let us go through. I kinda doubt they’d let us come back now again if we wanted to, even if we had enough security. I don’t know. Maybe they would. But I kinda doubt it. But they were wanting us to add so much security that at some point it becomes we can’t afford it. Some of these officers were gonna come in at $100.00 an hour if the right officers showed up. I guess they have a system where people can pick what jobs they do and the higher their rank they get seniority and they get to pick the job–the off the clock job. And because of their seniority then they go from 75 bucks an hour all the way up to 100 bucks an hour.
So we were gonna have at least 2 officers at 200 bucks an hour over several hours. So that’s easily another thousand dollars. Well, pretty quick these conferences for free aren’t even feasible anymore. So we had already announced these were our last five cities. We couldn’t even carry them off. But folks, we are gonna be doing our free, excuse me, our paid, ticketed, national conference. Our fifteenth annual Ozarks conference, the last weekend of April. It is at a resort. It is gated. It has a guard shack out front. And we have a great relationship with the sheriff department in this community, and some of their elected officials.
So do not let the Marxists, the Muslims and Islamists win. Do show up for our ticketed event–our fifteenth annual Ozarks conference. Ten speakers. Friday night, April 27th, April 28th is a Saturday. Half day Sunday the 29th. The full details are at wvwtv.com/Ozarks. Again, we’re at a compound gated, resort center with a guard shack out front. It’s ticketed. All of our people will be mailed their tickets about two weeks before the conference. And we will be screening everyone coming into the room. We will hire police officers there. But see we have the budgets to do that with a ticketed event. We will be going to only doing one event a year in person–our national conference in the Ozarks. Full details wvwtv.com/Ozarks.
Other than that, we are committing ourselves to our national daily radio show from 1:00 to 2:00pm Central Time. And you – if you don’t have a station in your area that carries it, you can listen live at worldviewradio.com/live each day. Tomorrow my guest will be former Department of Homeland Security officer Phil Haney, along with Jim Simpson who writes for the Daily Caller and American Thinker. They also will be responding to what just happened to us and where we’re going in America.
Phil Haney talked to me for almost two hours yesterday morning. He woke me up, in fact, calling me. He was so concerned. He wrote the book, See Something, Say Nothing. He was inside the Department of Homeland Security. They put together a grand jury to investigate him to see if he had violated the rights of any potential terrorists because he was doing his job so well at the Department of Homeland Security. Did you hear what I just said? He was doing his job so well they got a grand jury going against him and investigating him for years. He’ll be my guest tomorrow. He’ll tell you where we’re going.
Jim Simpson has researched this backwards and forwards and is an excellent journalist and researcher. Folks, there’s much more to come out about this. So, please, join us tomorrow. Worldviewradio.com/live if you don’t have a station in your area. Worldviewradio.com/live.
But we’re gonna commit ourselves to our radio shows, the research that goes into our TV shows. My TV show last week, for one hour of TV, took 60 hours of research. And you can watch that now at wvwtv.com, wvwtv.com. So you see, between our radio show, our TV show, and then all the other TV shows we produce from this TV studio for the likes of people like Usama Dakdok, Shahram Hadian and many others, we’re just flat out busy. We don’t have any time really for extra travel. And the technology is now here to do the things we’re doing and get out to more people for pennies on the dollar. So we’re not going away. In fact, we’re expanding. And we’re gonna just commit ourselves and our time to our broadcast network of radio and television programs. But we will be doing one conference a year for now. But it will be ticketed. I hope you’ll join us the last weekend of April. Wvwtv.com/Ozarks. Again, wvwtv.com/Ozarks. A family rate, a group rate, on a compound. A resort with a gate and a guard out front. And we will have sheriff deputies on hand.
Before we conclude here, about another seven, eight minutes to go with our guest, Chris Gaubatz, Chris, let’s talk about the fact that you said, well, I’m not so sure we could trust law enforcement. That might shock a few people, and certainly we’re not trying to even offend any law enforcement listening. But let’s explain that.
Now the Bloomington police officers we were working with on the phone to have security were really good to us. And they seemed very, very concerned. But I have a friend who’s in national security. He has 600 people that answer to him. He’s pretty high up if you have 600 people answering to you. His advice to me when we were still headed toward the idea of the conference a couple days ago in Minneapolis was, well, if you see these officers disappear, you can’t find them, they walk off, you better get out of there. In fact, you better announce to everybody, ‘scatter!’ I said, “What?” He said, “Yeah. There are places where it’s been documented where the police have been told to stand down and basically pulled.” And so a military guy who is a national security with 600 people answering to him said, “If all of a sudden officers you’ve hired disappear, their superiors have pulled them and something could be about to happen.”
Now that sounds extreme if it wasn’t coming from the guy I know who’s in the military and with national security agencies. Chris, would you address that, please?
Chris Gaubatz: Sure. So one thing I want to be very clear on, the average law enforcement officer on the street is a hardworking and wants to do the right thing. You just – the superiors often times are coopted and targeted by these groups. Whether they’re the CAIR groups, Muslim Brotherhood groups or whether they’re these hard left groups. They’re targeting the superiors to make them do their bidding for them. And so they would be the ones that would be giving the stand-down orders. And, again, it’s part of the problem–these groups control not only what law enforcement is trained on, but specifically what they’re not trained on. And what they’re not going to be trained on is going to be these groups like Antifa and the leftist groups, like Black Lives Matter, subversive groups and also the jihadi groups. They’re not getting that training, so necessarily they don’t even understand the dynamics. Not because they’re bad law enforcement officers, but because their superiors aren’t providing them the training that they need.
Brannon Howse: So we have many examples where police were told to stand down? I mean I can think of when the groups wanted to riot in Baltimore the mayor said, “Let’s give them room to riot,” and pulled the police back. What about those poor innocent people that were in the danger zone? Those business owners. Those shop owners. Any other examples where the police were told, get back, stand down, don’t do anything? How about Parkland? We got four officers standing outside while 17 kids are shot and murdered. Any other thoughts on that or any examples you can give us?
Chris Gaubatz: Well, you know the one I think of is sort of the progressive Marxist haven out in Berkeley. I mean we know as a matter of fact that they were standing there watching citizens be attacked and assaulted by domestic terrorist group Antifa. And so absolutely, absolutely it has happened.
What I worry about is the environment that we’re in right now is this attitude from some of these liberal mayors who control chiefs of police in many aspects, this is gonna sweep the country. And we’re gonna see more civil unrest as we get closer to the 2018 elections, as we get closer to the general 2020 elections. We’re gonna see more civil unrest necessarily that’s what these groups want. And so this problem is gonna get worse, not better.
Brannon Howse: Let’s, in the remaining moments here, tell our audience a little bit of what you would have shared if you had got the chance to speak in some of these cities. Give us the overview of what you were gonna tell them that they need to know that – I mean after all, what is it you were gonna say that scared these people so bad to act like the thugs and Islamo Nazis they are?
Chris Gaubatz: Well, the one thing I would say simply is everything that I know about Islam comes from learning about Islam and jihad and sharia from mosques here in the United States. And from groups like CAIR, Hamas here in the US. This is exactly why CAIR does not want me to speak because they understand that everything that I say is truthful and that I’ve been around these groups. So when I talk about them subverting interfaith dialogue meetings or legislative meetings or law enforcement, I know that because I saw that firsthand. And that is exactly why they do not want me to speak about this. Because it’s not like I read it from a book somewhere. I actually lived it. And I can detail that out.
I would just encourage people to learn more about this threat. And I appreciate you letting me on here tonight, Brannon, to talk about this. This is a conversation that families need to have all over the country because your family needs to understand what you’re up against over the next few years.
Brannon Howse: Well, we’re gonna continue to work with you on radio and television. How could our audience get a hold of you? If someone had the guts to book you to come into town, how could they do that?
Chris Gaubatz: Yeah. So you can find me on just my name Chris Gaubatz at icloud.com. And the spelling G A U B A T Z. I’m sure you’ll have that up on your site. But feel free to email me, ask me out. I keep it very simple. My name at iCloud. And you can also find more information by going to Amazon and reading “Muslim Mafia.”
Brannon Howse: Well, my friend, thank you so much for your willingness to go to these cities. I’m sorry it didn’t work out. I know there are many disappointed people. We had about 1,500 people registered in Minneapolis, St. Paul between our afternoon session and our evening session. Over a thousand in Milwaukee. Over 400 in Green Bay. So we had a lot that we could have trained. But I think in the end we’re gonna reach millions with our new movie coming out based on a lot of the events that have happened to us and with the backlash. I think maybe this is a wakeup call. Hopefully it's a wakeup call for Americans to realize if we just sit around we will lose our right to freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, freedom of speech. And then after that, what comes next?
Chris Gaubatz: You know what? What comes next is – look, Brannon, it gets worse and worse from here. Unless we stand up and assert ourselves and assert our right to free speech and our right to defend our families, it only goes downhill from here. We have to assert ourselves. We have to understand who we are and we have to understand what our enemy wants and how they’re operating.
Brannon Howse: I think one of the things that would be next, if you can shut down and censor people in hotel ballrooms and they can be successful at it, the next thing is to censor and shut down Christian radio, conservative talk radio with hate crime laws or fairness doctrine or as they proposed a few years ago, they tried to put in legislation for the internet that we had to leave a section of our websites open for anyone who disagreed. So we have to pay for the website development, the servers, the bandwidth, everything. But we have to leave a section of the website open for the Islamo Nazis and the Antifa and the communist groups and the thugs to come on there and post what they want.
So the next thing is after they shut us down in ballrooms is to go after us on radio, television and our own websites with fairness doctrine, hate crime, that kinda thing.
Chris Gaubatz, thank you for what you’re doing. Thank you for alerting the American people and the risk you’ve taken to bring this message to us through your undercover work infiltrating CAIR. And thank you, Chris, for being with us tonight.
Chris Gaubatz: thank you so much for having me on, Brannon.
Brannon Howse: Thanks. Folks, thank you so much for watching tonight. We’ll be back next Sunday, 8:00 PM Central time as we live stream. Again, tomorrow, 1:00 PM Central time on radio. If you don’t have a station in your area you can listen at worldviewradio.com/live.
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Thank you so much for watching and we’ll talk to you next time. Until then, I’m Brannon Howse. Take care.