Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/07/06 05:33:03 PM |
Age 50, TX |
I probably agree with about 99% of your views, however, you were off base about the quarterback not wearing a helmet. He is a commodity? Aren't we all commodities then? If something happens to me it's going to disrupt some lives, but does that mean I should livin a bubble. I ride a motorcycle everyday. Sometimes I wear a helmet, sometimes I don't. You may think I'm stupid for not wearing a helmet, and that's ok. I also usually don't wear a seatbelt. I don't drive like an idiot and I believe statistics are stacked as to the value of wearing them.
Love you man, but you are wrong about the guy being made to wear a helmet. If the accident were caused by him riding like an idiot than I'm all over him for it, but, not knowing all the details about the accident I don't feel like he needs to be run in the ground.
I have a wonderful wife of 23 years and to great boys, 16 and 13. If I thought it was stupid or irresponsible to not wear a helmet I'd wear one.
Also, I think it's a bit off base to liken this incident in the slightest way to the "definition of marriage" debate.
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Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/07/06 02:52:37 AM |
Age 22, TX |
"She responded: 'Well, I don't think it should be used as a campaign tool, obviously. But I do think it's something that people in the United States want to debate. And it requires a lot of sensitivity to talk about the issue, a lot of sensitivity.'
What the First Lady is saying is, 'Dont make a judgement that two men marrying each other is morally wrong because that might make gay people feel bad.'"
Perception is truth, regardless of the facts. What the author perceived is what he believes to be true, regardless of whether or not it is. Essentially, he heard what he wanted to hear.
In fact, she didn't say anything of the sort. Since she didn't make a statement as strong as you would have liked, you assume she's supporting the side you oppose. If a pro-gay liberal would have evaluated her statement, he might've thought "what she was really saying" was that they were being careful not to alarm the gay community as they tried to strip them of their marriage rights.
Now, being a Christian, I don't support gay marriage in any form. However, after attending Focus on the Family's Love Won Out seminar on homosexuality, I can agree with the First Lady that it is a sensitive issue and should be handled with care.
"And here is what I am talking about. In the world of political correctness, making a judgment about someones actions is worse than the actions themselves.
The proposed Marriage Protection Amendment is both a moral and political issue. Some senators are for it, some are against it. So the political component is self-evident. It cannot be denied. Senators had to vote on the proposed amendment for goodness sakes, should they not use it in their campaigns to say, "I am for it and my opponent is against it?"
Yet, the First Lady is saying it should not be used as a campaign tool? That statement makes no sense."
A campaign tool is something used for the sole purpose of getting elected. For instance, a plan to cut taxes is a campaign tool. Campaign tools are partisan issues that only matter to the party voting. The proposed marriage amendment is something much bigger than a way to get elected. Instead, it matters so much that it transcends party lines and should not be treated as something as petty as a means to get elected. That's what she meant, I hope that makes more sense.
"What this really is--if in fact, Mrs. Bush is against same-sex marriage, and that is not certain--is the First Lady not wanting to be called a bigot by the politically correct crowd. If she doesnt take a stand she avoids the criticism from the dominant liberal media. Which might cause her poll numbers to go down.What if she had said this: 'The idea of two men getting married is ridiculous and immoral. Everybody knows God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman which leads to children which leads to families which leads to countries which leads to civilizations. Next question.' That is the kind of statement of moral clarity we should be hearing from the First Lady. We don't need to hear the sensitivity lecture. If it is 'insensitive' to against two or three men getting married then so be it. There are worse things to be."
It's not insensitive to be against gay marriage, it is insensitive to call a lifestyle people believe to be right 'ridiculous.' Ridicule and insults are by their very nature insensitive, and when dealing with a hurting and confused audience like the homosexual movement, they will get you absolutely nowhere. Tact and sensitivity are the difference between an honest opposition and bigoted hatespeech. Focus on the Family isn't bigoted, Fred Phelps is, and they both oppose homosexuality. The method, not the message, is what constitutes bigotry.
One more thing. As the First Lady, Laura Bush's main job and role is the same as every wife: to support her husband. If she went off and made much stronger statements to the press about issues than he did, it would reflect negatively on him. Instead, she chose to answer the question in a much more neutral way.
In the future, before accusations are made, I encourage this author not to be "politically correct," but simply to be correct in his accusation.
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Re: Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 07:11:13 PM |
Age 49, TX |
To the point!!!
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Re: Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 07:08:39 PM |
Age 49, TX |
Again I say Amen!
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Re: Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 07:07:08 PM |
Age 49, TX |
Amen and Amen!!!
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Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 05:11:12 PM |
Age 67, AL |
While most of us are tired of the propaganda used against us in the form of Political Correctness, Christians are doing very little about it. Both political parties are moving in the same direction of government controlling every aspect of our life. The acceptance of European thought of the Bible being a book of hate is the wedge needed to remove any vestage of morality. Our Federal GOvernment used the Civil Rights movement to gain control over the Education System and extend the Tax code to redistribute wealth to Government sponsored programs.
Now both parties are using the Gay Rights Agenda as a tool of Political Correctness to remove the influence of Christianity from the nation.
Political Correctness is a form of mind control we have accepted as the standard in our relationships with all facets of society. Once Americans accept the idea the Bible is a hate book against Gays then the idea of preaching the 10 Commandments or any amoral act as SIN is over.
If Christians do not get it together and get out of the political parties and start taking back our country then we deserve what we will be receiving.
For those who believe they will be Raptured so their vote is of no concern might get the suirprise of their lives.
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Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 10:39:29 AM |
Age 61, AL |
To state clearly and emphatically what the Bible says about homosexual relationships is not an expression of hatred against "Gays". It is simply a matter of telling the truth. If your "gay" friend is a Christian he is, at the very least, a disobedient Christian, flaunting a position that is clearly contrary to Scripture.
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Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 09:50:15 AM |
Age 57, TX |
Actually I am tired of liberal correctness being called political correctness. Try to cite an example of "political coreectness" in which the view being protected from serious dscussion or analysis is not a liberal position. While it is okay for baseball to state its concern for the dwindling number of black ballplayers and seek to increase that number there can clearly be no concern for the lack of white basketball players. We need to recognize the value of burning our flag in an "expression" of protest but don't dare burn a Mexican flag to protest a parade of illegal aliens demanding their "rights."
Liberal poppycock is always the protected idea of this "correctness or more accurately incorrectness that is not merely political but liberal.
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Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 05:57:37 AM |
Age 58, MS |
The poster said that he had several gay friends that called themselves Christain or were Jewish and they attended church or synagogue regularly. From my reading of the Lord's word, I fail to understand how anyway can be gay and call themselves Christian. The two are not compatible. Maybe if they are repentant gays trying to change their lifesytle but if they are un-repentant then I think the term "gay Christian" is not correct.
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Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/06/06 05:09:20 AM |
Age 31, QL |
You state that, "The Bible is clear..." How can you read and affirm one section of the Bible and demand to have it followed and completely negelect the rest of the Bible which clearly states that Homosexuality is wrong, sinful and condemned by God?
God made Adam and Eve (one man and one woman) not Adam and Steve. This was clearly a sign that it is God's intention for marriage to be one man and one woman, for life, not two men or two women, or anything else....and if you're one of those people who decide that Genesis is just stories, then why believe in anything in the Bible at all? If you don't accept it as God's word and the truth from beginning to end then don't bother quoting from other parts of it. You can't pick and choose what you want to believe and follow.
I quote: "But sadly, in the political world that's just not how it works. If Laura Bush did come right out and say that she thought homosexuallity was a sin and against man's true nature then she would be alienated by the political world, in the least, and possibly harrassed or worse".
So what? We are called to stand apart from this world. The old saying, "Stand for something or you'll fall for anything", applies here. What is the point in her being in that high political position if she doesn't use that position to say and do the right things? You might as well have any old person in there if the people in power won't stnad up and say/do the right thing.
Where would we be now if Jesus had decided that he preferred not to be alienated and harassed, rather than to speak the hard truth and accept the consequences?
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Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/04/06 09:57:04 AM |
Age 58, GA |
My friend, please understand that there is a vast difference between "judging" and indentifying and exposing evil as Scriptures tell us to do (Eph 5:11). If we carry this judging thing out to its ultimate conclusion we could not call a murderer a murderer without our being labeled a hatemonger (or mean spirited) as you are trying to label Tim.
Is a Church being mean when it calls to account a member who is cheating on their spouse? What if they called them "an adulterer?" Are we judging? No. Or rather, yes, we are but we are excercising "righteous judgment" which we are also commanded to do (John 7:24).
You mention that your gay friends have never tried to recruit you. Is this the litmus test? If my neighbor were a hit man and he never tried to kill me does that relieve me of my Christian duty to turn him in?
We all know that we are to love others. This isn't debated. But this sentimental ooey gooey type of love concept has got to go. It isn't biblical. Real love takes many forms including the tough type.
Some times the loving thing to do is very hard at the time. Confronting someone you love is the hardest thing in the world and sometimes you have to be very hard and direct inflicting hurt, but the end loving results rare worth the investment of love. See Proverbs 27:6.
I appreciate your opinions and just disagree. Keep on reading and loving.
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Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/04/06 07:33:06 AM |
Age 37, MN |
I for one am sick of the attitude expressed above. That is the most misused text in the Bible. It does not mean that we can't say that something is wrong or a sin. Christians are still to use discretion about what they say and how. Furthermore what is being loving about letting people roast in hell for eternity or cutting up to 20 years off their lifespan?
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Re: Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/03/06 12:54:37 PM |
Age 19, NC |
Just because one claims to be of the Christian religion does not necessarily mean that that person is a Christian. To some Christianity is only religion and not FAITH. Some may say they believe IN Christ but may not believe ON Christ. They never give their lives over to His will. And yes, God is a loving, tender, and compassionate God, but still punishes sin. If you believe on the Bible, and it sounds like you may desire to, then maybe you need to learn about the other side of God. It might not sound sugary sweet to hear that God punishes sin, but He does. He hates sin and sent His Son Jesus Christ to die on the cross and to be resurrected on the thrid day, all in order to offer every person a chance at redemption and forgiveness. IF SIN WASN'T A BIG DEAL TO GOD, WHY WOULD HE HAVE SENT HIS ONLY SON TO DIE A TERRIBLE DEATH? AND ALL FOR US? Don't get me wrong here, I don't think God would ever want someone to be unkind to those that are gay, but Christians do need to take a clear stand and declare that they beleive it to be wrong. You don't have to be a gay-basher to disagree with the "lifestyle". Oh, and just so you know how I know that homosexuality is wrong... read about Sodom and Gommorah in the Holy Bible (preferably King James since it has been changed the least). Just to give you a brief idea of the story, Lot (Abraham's nephew)lives in the area. The people are so sexually perverse than when the Lord sends two angels disguised as men to warn Lot of Sodom and Gommorah's destruction the people want to commit lude acts with. Lot in turn offers the people his virgin daughters if they will leave the two angels alone. It turns out that he doesn't give them his daughters and the Lord says He will spare Lot's family. As they are fleeing, Lot's wife turns to look back, as God had commanded her not to, and was turned into a pillar of salt. Yes, God is a merciful God who chose to show His mercy to Lot and His daughters, but he is also a pure and holy God who destroyed the wicked because of their sin.
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Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 07/02/06 12:34:42 AM |
Age 46, CO |
What ever happened to Christian love. The Bible states "Love thy Neighbor as thyself."
It also states "Judge not, lest thee be judged." Or Jesus' teaching to "Do onto others what you would want others to do unto you."
I am not advocating Gay marriage. But I am shocked at the hatred directed towards Gays.
I have several gay friends. None of them has ever tried to "recruit me."
Three of my gay friends are Christian and go to church every Sunday. One is Jewish and he goes to Synagogue every Saturday.
The Bible is clear, only the Lord can judge. How can any Christian claim to fear the Lord, and yet Judge others. Judgement is for the Lord alone. When we judge others we sin, and our sin is worse because we are putting ourselves in the place of the Lord and that is Idol worship.
As Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
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Re: I Am Sick and Tired of Political Correctness
| Posted On: 06/29/06 10:22:09 AM |
Age 19, NC |
I agree that today's world, especially politicians, has become way too politically correct. Christians should take a stand and boldly declare what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. But sadly, in the political world that's just not how it works. If Laura Bush did come right out and say that she thought homosexuallity was a sin and against man's true nature then she would be alienated by the political world, in the least, and possibly harrassed or worse. It's hard to make any kind of difference when everyone's against you. Again, I think it's very sad, but that's the way it works. And, think about it, we as Americans determine who's in office. It's partly our responsibility what those elected officials do.
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