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Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/24/06 12:51:24 PM Age 35, GA
Amen!



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/24/06 11:23:57 AM Age 45, FL
Oh my gosh, I live in Florida and had no idea about this law that Gov. Bush signed. I consider myself to well informed. I listen to talk radio, receive updates from every conservative websight, including this one and I did know about this. This will effect my children as they are approaching the 9th grade. How did this go under my radar? I have been deceived when it comes to Gov. Bush and Pres. Bush. They are not conservative thinkers. This is just one more reason for private schooling or better yet home schooling.

Re: Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/24/06 10:42:59 AM Age 21, OH
When I read your comment and the comment to which you replied, I find yours to be the one on a "high horse." People are called to various places, so who are you to suppose that that person was better suited for homeland missions? Sure, workers are need at home, too, but some are to go while others stay. If you have such a high burden for the situation at home, then you work here and let others know the need and benefit of doing so. Just don't knock down the alternative, which is also needed and beneficial.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 10:48:16 PM Age 49, MN
While I strongly agree that the government should NOT be making the decisions about children's work futures, there is a decided need for showing other paths to success to our kids. As it stands now, they are only presented with "one path to success"...and that is a 4-year college. Labor and Education Department stats show that 30% of those entering a 4-year college drop out and another 30% end up employed in jobs that didn't require a degree in the first place! These kids need to know there are other acceptable options to post-secondary education...and those options desperately need to be shown as socially appropriate, both to the kids and to the parents. Otherwise, we will continue down the path of spending tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to send kids to a 4-year college when they have absolutely no idea why it is they are there...they are there simply because that is what you do after high school.... And that's sad.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 10:48:02 PM Age 49, PA
Sir, I've been an education researcher for over 30 years and I agree with your essay except for one very important point you've missed. Our public education system changed, not 15 years ago as you say, but shortly after President Lyndon Johnson's massive ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION ACT was passed by Congress in 1965. It was then that the traditional American classroom was changed into a life-adjustment, psycho-social clinic through the Act's monatary grants to educational change agents who disseminated their destructive programs into every school district in the Union.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 09:16:16 PM Age 30, AZ
Um I was reading this and is not forcing a child to pick a career before they are legally an adult is insane. I mean what happened to the first admendment rights of "free speech" which does IMO cover what job you will do. The goverment just wants to make all of us do what they want and I for one am sick and tired of it. Time to take all children out of public schools and home school them. No more public education!

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 04:41:40 PM Age 44, AZ
I'm a Pastor. Do students in Florida's public schools have "clergy" as one of their career choice options?



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 04:29:36 PM Age 71, OH
I knew this was coming several years ago. My wife and I took our twins out of the government school in the 6th grade and put them in a christian school and have not regretted it since. I have a grandson that graduated from high school and couldn't read his diploma! They wanted him to go another year, I said that they had 12 yrs to teach him how to read and didn.t how was they going to do it in one year. Its easy to control people when they have been dumbed down. I will forward this message to all on my email list it is a very good read and am looking forward to the second part.

Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 04:00:58 PM Age 44, TN
How wonderful that you had that kind of call on your life at such an early age. Too bad you sought to distance yourself from the mission field by staying home and failing to be the salt and light God would have been able to have you be in your own "Jerusalem." Get off your spiritual high horse.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 12:40:12 PM Age 20, WV
I think this idea is very outlandish. C'mon, asking a 9th grader to make a major career choice? Also, having the government pick what you should go into just by looking over transcripts? That's terrible. I am a 20 year old college student and I'll be entering my Junior year of college this fall. I am not even 100% sure of what I want to do. Most of my friends aren't either. I have a good idea and I have picked a major, but I still like the thought of taking any type of classes I want and being able to change my mind and explore other options. If someone had sat me down in 9th grade and told me that which career I should choose...who knows what that might have been. Children and still learning and growing at that point in their educational lives...and I personally wasn't as studious now. Upon graduating high school, I had a mere 2.9 GPA, mostly because I was young and slacked off a great deal, but would that have knocked me out of the running to be a nurse or a lawyer? I certainly hope not because my goal now is to become a lawyer and with a much higher GPA 3.33 and a good standing on the deans list, I think it's possible. I am just so grateful that my career choice wasn't planned or forced upon me in high school.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 11:43:58 AM Age 36, MO
I think it is appropriate for parents to know their children, pay attention to the gifts, talents, and skills that God has given them and steer them vocationally into areas most suited to them. But with parents letting the state educate their children, it is only logical to turn over that part of their God-given responsibility as well. Your article was alarming, but not surprising to me. Angie



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 11:39:33 AM Age 30, ND
I am a teacher in North Dakota. My experience has been that 9th graders are typically quite immature. Most students become serious about their lives toward the end of 10th grade and the beginning of 11th grade. However, even after they have become serious, they continue to change their minds about what they want to do. This often continues into college. I have a hard time swallowing the idea that this is an intentional communist wedge. This is instead a "feel-good" program so that Florida can pat itself on the back for doing something unique to solve its educational problems. It's style over substance. True education reform is boring. It's a matter of raising standards (academic and disciplinary). Politicians want their names in the paper, not real reform.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 10:02:45 AM Age 66, AL
Your article is on target. I studied Comparative Economics from a Marxist Professor while in Graduate School in 1973. The Department of Education and our Government has adopted all of Marx's plan other than, "He who does not work does not eat!". I attended a vocational high school whose objective was to produce training for "Blue Collar" jobs for the local economy. Many of my class did finish college and excelled as well as the blue collar bubbas who became small business owners. Currently I live in a county that cannot attract industry because of an undereducated work force,i.e. social promotion and dumbdowned education. No one can make a race horse out of a jackass and our current educational system tries to assure mothers and fathers little bubba is a race horse instead of the jackass. I am a firm believer in aptitude testing and I.Q. testing and directing kids toward areas they can find fulfillment. I also believe in an open enrollment for college for those who after being slapped around in life can return to educate themselves at a higher level. While Democracy and Christianity sound good on the surface I have never worked for an organization that did not function from top down management,authorian hiearchy. Some one made the final call and was in charge. While I feel we should have a choice in our life educating our population should not be left to chance otherwise we will have too many jackasses at the starting gate and not really be in the race.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 09:55:27 AM Age 60, CA
Another excellent article! And one I wish we could get every American to read! This is NOT what our brave military has fought for! How can we WAKE UP AMERICA to the threat that is facing us? And if we don't stop it and return this nation to our own Constitutional form of government - and soon - all WILL be lost! ALL Conservative, Constitutionally based organizations need to start working together to inform Americans to the biggest threat that we face - it is NOT necessarily from terrorist groups, but from our own government which is running roughshod over our Constitution! Americans are blind to what is occurring right in front of us. Politicians wrap these programs in flowery speech and "pretty packages" in order to get us to swallow their garbage! Everyone who is reading this has a responsibility to inform your friends and your neighbors to the threats that we face. If they don't believe you - show them what is happening in Europe - because the Communist threat is now weakening us and we have become easier targets as a result!

Vocational training and college/vocational 'tracks' have been with us since the 1960s
Posted On: 06/23/06 09:34:09 AM Age 55, IN
When I went to high school in Illinois (circa 1965), we were asked THEN if we were going to college or what our plans might be. The only difference that I see in the two time frames is that 'back in the good ole days,' ALL students had to complete core curriculum with a passing grade. Many of my friends went to the voc track and started working after or even before graduation. Some took classes in the morning and worked in the afternoon. I don't see a lot of new things here.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 08:13:10 AM Age 46, TN
This has been going on for a long time. When I was in 9th grade (back in 1973), I had no idea what I wanted to do. From that lack of interest, my guidance counselor determined that I should be placed in the business track. I took courses in Gregg shorthand, typing, and accounting. Upon graduation, I began working as a secretary for an attorney while attending community college. I continued working my way through three college degrees, ending with a Masters in Library and Information Science! I was grateful for the practical training I was given, and through sheer determination, I was able to achieve my educational goals. Being educated to think is good for society; being trained to perform a job well is a good work ethic.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/23/06 07:00:57 AM Age 31, GA
I remember a time in "Social Studies" class in the fifth grade when our teacher informed us that children in France (insinuating France was on target and US schools weren't) began their quest for a particular job/trade in the seventh grade. I remember feeling horrified and hoping that it wouldn't happen in my school because what I wanted to do changed from day to day. Vet today, doctor tomorrow, president next week, etc. Listen everyone... what you need to know is not hidden from you. You want the Communist Manifesto? Go to www.marxist.org You want to know the UN's plans for global education? Go to the UN's website and read the documentation for the program "Agenda 21". It is all right before your eyes... on the table... in the open... in plain view.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/22/06 11:37:09 PM Age 58, IL
Superb article, Brannon... but sadly, we TRULY deserve what we have. Because our country and its politicians (as opposed to statesmen) are just a mirror reflection of who and what we are becoming as a society. First, the ones who even bother to, vote these pols in. Then, like the trusting souls we are, we (for the most part) turn our backs on them and go about our daily lives. Then, we act shocked and surprised when they go and do something stupid or really idiotic... again. Then, we go back to vote, the ones who bother to, and RE-elect the very same pols... because we are SO TOTALLY convinced that OUR pol is a good guy or a good gal. Good grief, Charlie Brown... when are we EVER going to learn??? My dear brothers and sisters in Christ - what IS IT going to take??? How about - we all get really really really mad, get current on the issues and then go and register as many of our friends as we pssibly can. Then, when the next primary comes around, we march our little armies down to the polling place and vote for the NEW guy!!! That's right... we throw the bums out. On BOTH sides of the isle. We may not get them all, or even most of them, but we MAY just get enough of them to... to just maybe... REALLY get their attention for the first time. Now, if we don't think that this is important enough to get OFF our duffs and actually go out and do something... why should "ANYONE" listen to us when we complain... again? Because we WILL... again. Scott.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/22/06 11:15:55 PM Age 65, SC
Brannon, would you be able to post the Communist Manifesto some day soon? Every American needs to have read it and we should have a copy of it for quick reference. Thanks for all you do! South Carolina



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/22/06 07:03:06 PM Age 46, CO
When I was in 9th grade, I wanted to be a missionary. I wonder what they would have done with that? Reason #... (hmmm, I've lost count) to homeschool!

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