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Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 07/14/06 09:37:21 AM Age 35, MD
Most homeschoolers could have told you this agenda was being pushed forward. The educational system in America is constantly trying out every new method that comes down the pike. All of these methods continue to fail because they focus on social outcomes and not educational outcomes. If God is not allowed in the education of children, then they will continue to be lost. The reality is that we, as Christians, must make tough choices and sacrificies to change the tide or it will inevitably overwhelm us as a sea. We must stand together to defeat laws that change authority over children from parents to the state. Homeschoolers know this threat all to well. We are constantly fighting to educate our children in freedom from the government. Hopefully, people will continue to read, view, and be active in the events that surround and confront them. That is my prayer.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 07/07/06 11:44:16 AM Age 35, IA
'Just another (of many) reasons to keep on homeschooling. Too many Christian parents aren't taking seriously the fact that God is going to hold us, as parents, not government schools, accountable for the education and training of our children.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 07/07/06 07:48:37 AM Age 35, IA
Just one more excellent reason to homeschool! I wish there were more Christians who would pay attention to what is going on in the government school system, instead of just blindly sending their kids in, because it's the "American way." Let's remember that God put us, the parents, in charge of our children's education, and we ONLY are accountable for our stewardship of these blessed gifts He's given us.



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Posted On: 07/01/06 03:37:02 PM Age 19, NC
Amen, and thanks!

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 07/01/06 09:31:19 AM Age 35, KS
Perhaps I'm just the odd man out, but I knew in 9th grade what I wanted to do for a career, and I'm doing it today, 20 years later. Although I was administered various career assessments, no one pushed me into my choice - in fact, the career assessments (as well as other people) tried to guide me in other directions. I believe my knowing in 9th grade what I wanted to do kept me from following those recommendations and possibly ending up in a career not suited to me.



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Posted On: 06/30/06 02:55:15 PM Age 44, TN
Interesting discussion! The Bible says all authority is only in place because God Himself has allowed it to be so. And that we pay our taxes so that our government can function properly. It is really in the Book! Government does NOT automatically represent Anti- Christ - in fact that is about the most absurd thing I believe I have heard in a while. There are MANY Godly men and women who are serving in elected positions and it is our responsibility to pray for them, submit to their God- given authority and perhaps just as importantly, stay involved! Go to the polls this August and November and vote for the Christians who are on the ballot. You may not agree on this point, but they are out there. And if we decide we are going to distance ourselves from that important part of our citizenship in this country, we are sadly mistaken.

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Posted On: 06/29/06 10:03:21 AM Age 19, NC
I agree with your comments concerning my feedback, but I think you may have misunderstood my meaning a little. i do believe Jesus Christ is our Supreme Authority and that, as our forefathers would have wanted, America should choose leaders that follow His plans. But America is not doing that. We Christians are responsible just like everone else for who we put in office. I'm not saying at all that we should throw our morals out the window and blindly follow the government. But the Bible does subject us to man's law- as long as it doesn't go against God's teachings. I wasn't trying to say that Bush was perfect by any means. I was merely trying to express that had we elected a candidate other than Bush, our country could have been in alot worse of a shape.



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Posted On: 06/28/06 03:35:24 PM Age 38, TX
I see you take the stand of "lesser of two evils." Well, the problem isn't partisan. Bill Clinton and the Bushes were and have been partners for many years. It's not an issue of Democans or Republicrats. Democrats want communism and gov't control immediatly reguardless of the cost. Republicans want it 20 years down the road at half price. You need to get your head right. There is only two parties that matter in this country: We the People: Christendom. and They: The Communists/Anti-Christs. World wide for that matter. There is only ONE authority Jesus Christ. The only way other countries or entities can have authority over a Christian is if he lets them. Don't let them. All Christians are Kings and Priests and Sons of God. Who on earth can come between you and Christ All Mighty? No one, unless you let them. This is the type of un-denominational Christianity that our Forefathers had that established this country on the ROCK. No King but King Jesus

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/26/06 03:52:02 PM Age 19, NC
Thank you! This article really gave me food for thought. I've never really agreed with the way alot of things are done in public schools. Granted, I've never attended one (I attended a Christian school.), but my parents' and my own tax dollars pay for them, so I try to keep myself informed of what's going on. I do think it is extremely ridiculous that students HAVE to state their career/college intent during ninth grade. Most ninth graders care more about who they are dating and what they are wearing than what college or career they will choose. I know I changed my mind MANY times before I finally chose what to do with my life. I do think, though, that college/career education has its place right along-side general education. I know I wish I had received more knowledge about different careers and such paths when I was in high school. I think government schools should educate students about different choices and offer the pathway for those who KNOW for certain what they want to do with their life. They just should not force anything on the students. Let the students choose for themselves, WHEN THEY ARE READY. America would be a much better place if more people chose their career because they were HAPPY with what they were doing, rather than the position, power, or salary they would be receiving.



Re: Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/26/06 03:38:35 PM Age 19, NC
Maranatha, My comment is not really about what was written about the article, but more about what was written about President Bush. It is true that he doesn't mention Jesus Christ. That is a shame, but in a way he has still shown where he stands. It is sad that if he mentioned Jesus name that most people in the United States would be offended, but they would be. At least he is trying to show where he stands and still be able to do his job. America could be much worse off, he could not mention God's name at all. Again, I do agree that he should not be ashamed of the name of Jesus, but where would our country be if we elected someone who did not talk about God(at least BUSH does)and someone who did not try to instill Christian values into our government?

Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/26/06 01:55:02 AM Age 38, TX
Public Schools aren't in the business of teaching students to become employers, but instead to become employees. They don't teach them economics or how to become rich or how to use economic tools of leverage and very little of interest and none of real estate investing. Public Schools are there to fill the gaps of the lower rung service industries, just like easy access borders are there to allow ease of manual/illegal labor. How does communism fit into this? Do you know what or who a communist is, even? What is this communist manefesto? If you read it and see when the ten planks were manifested in this country, you will come to realize that the US was a communist entity BEFORE Russia in 1917. Trotsky's Jewish Bolsheviks were from New York, even. If Communism's dead, where are all the dead communists? The berlin wall didn't come down because we won the cold war. Kruchev said that we would be defeted w/o firing a shot. We had became so similar to the reds that the wall was redundant. We lost our values, especially of self determination and Nationalism. We decided a long time ago to let the gov't decide all things for us. Mc Carthy was so right, and Hitler must have had a clue. The illustrious FDR said "What's wrong with communists? Some of my best friends are communists." (I guess he had tea with the Rosenbergs?) My point is this... Who came up with this doctrine? Who were the super rich in Russia during the days of the iron curtain? How was Bill Clinton able to protest the Vietnam War in Moscow during the later years of the Iron Curtain/Cold War? Kruchev was right! Here's the holy hand grenade. The pin's been pulled allready. Communism is the political application of talmudic judaism. And you wonder why Jesus Christ is hated in by our Gov't and Public School System? I've heard "W" mention "god" in his speaches, but who's god? some pagan god of war? He never mentioned once the name of Jesus Christ. Maranatha



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/25/06 11:38:24 PM Age 81, TX
How are students supposed to find out which career is best for them? Being forced at any age to decide from numerous career choices, without knowing what activity they entail and what the requirements are, is generally unfair and unhelpful. While early professional tests on inclination and skills narrow down the choices, an approach must be found for real life experience by summer or part-time internships or mentorships. Forget government edicts.

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/25/06 03:05:58 PM Age 54, GA
This article was ASTOUNDING!! Though I didn't know about Gov Jeb Bush's latest move demanding that 9th graders declare their majors,I had noticed the strong trend to train-to-work. I didn't give much thought to it, UNTIL THIS ARTICLE. WOW... you cleared the air.



Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/25/06 01:56:11 PM Age 38, MD
You raise a good point how not all children should go to college. I also understand how you feel about some people think one career is more socially valuable than another. My fear is that some children are not given the choice or opportunity to take academically rigorous classes simply because of an internal tracking system which makes it next to impossible to change your mind about what you want to be "when you grow up" This denys many children their God given rights to pursue His calling, whatever that may be.

Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/25/06 01:49:20 PM Age 38, MD
Thank You Mr. Howse for writing your article USA Schooling the Communist way. It has addressed an issue which I have been concerned about for some time now. There is a movement in education through government mandates to make each student carbon copies of eachother. This is opposed bt Biblical thinking which each individual is uniquely precious in His sight. Origionality and personality is being driven out of our children in the name of "equality". I have nothing against equal opportunities for all but we should never forget that God has unique calls on each of our childrens' lives and a cookie cutter approach to education denys our children access to pieces of their own God given makeup. Railroading children into a specific carer path impedes personal growth and manipulates who the future learers will be.



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/25/06 09:47:42 AM Age 76, NY
The article, of course, is correct. The problem is that too many Christians thought that pulling out of society and closing their eyes to what many Americans were telling them -- including Mr. Howse YEARS AGO! Those who say they didn't know of this or that current LATEST evidence of a years' long implementation of the plans of the Change Agents, have themselves to blame. Too many Christians read only Christian news and views and think that that's all there is. What there "is" has been steadily implanted in EVERY ASPECT of society for decades now, in ways that reach those who never hear the truth of what has been done and who has done it. It's all well and good to cluck in appreciation for someone pointing out the problems for the umpteenth or hundredteenth time in decades. But, those who clucked all along never went beyond the clucking and left it all to those who were writing books or selling videos that were seldom seen in venues where people should have seen them and helped to spread the word. We all are now reaping the harvest of letting a generation or two be trained to help with the agenda of taking apart the country. Many good people have warned for years. More other good people have thought it was all taken care of because someone was watching and warning. Joan Battey, Apalachin, NY

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Posted On: 06/25/06 06:23:39 AM Age 44, TN
I believe perhaps you have misunderstood my comments regarding "homeland" versus "foreign" missions. The person who wrote the original comment stated that he/she felt the call to missions in the 9th grade. Obviously a 9th grader wasn't headed overseas, or even out of the state at that age unless his/her parents were already on a mission field. Believe me, I am a firm believer in spreading the gospel to the world. I give to and pray for and am very supportive of missions both home and abroad. My comments regarding homeschooling for such a child were simply to imply that the child would have been taken out of a possible mission field at that point in time. What a waste of a really great opportunity for some good old fashioned on the job training! For what it is worth - the world has arrived at our doorstep in the good old USA. Foreign missions is practically in our back yard! For example, my son attends public school in a small town - population 11,000. In our high school this past year we had children from Iraq, Iran, Mexico, Japan, and Ukrain, just to name a few. What a wonderful opportunity he had to interact with these kids and share his faith with them. A homeschooled child would have had a much more limited oppor- tunity.



Re: Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/24/06 10:20:44 PM Age 28, VA
Good point! I would LOVE to hear the answer to this question!

Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/24/06 01:30:41 PM Age 38, CO
To quote a great American President: "The philosphy of the classroom in one generation is the philosphy of the government in the next." -Abraham Lincoln



Re: U.S.A. Schooling the Communist Way Part I
Posted On: 06/24/06 01:25:40 PM Age 38, CO
To quote a great American President: The philosphy of the classroom in one generation is the philosphy of the government in the next. -Abraham Lincoln

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