Re: Re: Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/05/05 04:50:12 PM |
Age 43, TN |
Whew~ Glad we got that all straightened
out! Just curious why that "friend" was
on this website to begin with!
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/05/05 02:41:25 PM |
Age 74, WI |
I think both Cal & Tim say things to prove their own point of view and both may have some truth and some error. What bothers me is Christians who slam each other and go on about loving each other. And I am thououghly disapointed in those who suposedly are knowlegible (sp)not speaking Biblical Truth. Billy Graham saying the pope was a good man and therefore in heaven, when the pope directed people to pray to Mary and dead "saints" and the Bible tels us NOT to do that.
Mr Grahams endorsement of the pope has lead more people to ignore the truth of the Bible becasue he sid the pope was a good man. The to top it off endorsing Clinton, a liar and philandar (sp) my goodness where has his brain gone? senility for sure. Anyhow, back to the beginning why don't they follow God's Word ( the 100% truth) and save themsellves a ton of bickering among Christians.
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/04/05 09:29:07 PM |
Age 60, KS |
GREAT rebuttal, Tim. Just want to let you know how much I appreciate your saying this. Just wish it would get the publicity on FNC that Cal Thomas gets. Thanks for your efforts and all the folks there at AFA.
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/02/05 10:44:38 PM |
Age 42, CA |
Good article. I wholeheartedly support any brother or sister in Christ who is working to extend God's rule in ALL areas of life and thought, including the arena of politics. Why shouldn't Christ be Lord there also? Cal's approach is an enigma. He writes in a column and apparently proports a "conservative" perspective in his writing but continues to show disdain for Christians who take the next logical step in cultural engagement and actually act on their views by efforts to press Christ's rule and His righteousness into the political arena. Are we to shrink back to our christian ghettos and not get involved in redeeming culture for the glory of Christ? May it not be so! Onward Christian soldiers.
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/02/05 03:25:35 PM |
Age 73, OH |
I sadly have to agree with Mr Wildmon. I know and have talked with Cal Thomas in the past and feel he has slipped as I have observed him recently on FOX.
People who rub shoulders with the Washington crowd are a lot like the farmer who spends most of his in the pig pen. He starts smeling like the pigs but doesn't know because the smells seems normal to him. The recent incident of Billy Graham having Bill Clinton on the platform of his crusade is a good example.
I have known Billy Graham and both he and Cal have been in the pig pen too long.
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Re: Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/02/05 12:54:58 PM |
Age 44, PA |
I'll have to commend you, Susan, on your ability to judge the motives of Cal Thomas and Eddie Dobson--you've managed to acquire omniscience? Have you actually READ their book, or are you just firing potshots? I have read the book, find it to make a compelling case, find them NOT to be saying some of the things that Tim Wildmon implies they are saying, find them to be balanced and credible, and find those they accuse of relying too much on political power to be guilty as charged--even while I AGREE on most of the positions taken by Falwell and Dobson. If you read the book, you understand it not to be a critique so much of the positions, but upon an excessive and over-the-top reliance upon political means to accomplish spiritual purposes. Paul talks about using the right weapons for spiritual warfare, and in a nutshell, this is what Thomas and Dobson write about. To dismiss their concerns as being motivated by money is shameful and sub-Christian.
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Re: Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/02/05 12:47:38 PM |
Age 36, TN |
We have to remember that some of the nice folks giving feedback on America live in Canada...One of the most socialistic, anti-God nations on the face of the earth. Anyone that comments on homosexuality being a sin on the airwaves on Canada goes right to jail for 6 months under their hate-crime legislation.
The point being, be careful not to take the feedback from liberal Canadians about America and it founding too seriously.
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/02/05 10:49:13 AM |
Age 41, IL |
Your article is correct. I think Cal Thomas is just interested in getting into a controversy so he (along with Ed) can write a book and make some money.
It's all about the money. "Blinded by Might" was written to accuse others,create controversy and make money. It really only pointed the finger back to jealous Ed and Cal, wanting their piece of the evangelical
bookworm pie.
Susan McCurdy
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/02/05 01:10:32 AM |
Age 45, ON |
your nation was birth in rebellion....
and you continue to be blinded by that sin
you were the original 'liberation theologists' using injustice as a raison de tet for your taking up arms and shedding innocent blood...the evangelicals have never repented [ to my knowledge ] and any involvement in a government that is unrepentant and under God's judgement for it's sin in questionable at best...once again the admonition to 'love ones enemies and do good to those who dispitfully use you' is ignored in the name of self interest [cloaked as justice] and 'democracy'....America as a nation continues on the course she set inthe 1770's a rebellious teenager wanting their own way and God has given her over to it...
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Wildmon Concocts Faulty Critique of Cal Thomas
| Posted On: 07/01/05 05:00:41 PM |
Age 44, PA |
Tim's final line is a good place to begin, as he says, "conservative Christians should keep standing for biblical truth on a personal level, a church level and a governmental level. That we may fail from time to time at any of these levels does not negate the truth of God's Word or make it any less legitimate or vital that we stand up and proclaim that truth, even when it involves politics and government."
Cal Thomas would agree with every single word of that. Every single one. If you read the ENTIRE book that Tim selectively references and, from my perspective, twists a bit, you will know this to be true.
Tim's article is poorly written and misses the thrust of what Cal is trying to say, I believe. Of course we should involve ourselves in politics, and of course we shouldn't wait until we are perfect to do so, but we must do so recognizing the limitations of politics to accomplish God's purposes, and the supremacy of proclaiming the gospel and making disciples. Tim's dismissal of Cal's criticism of Falwell, suggesting that Falwell "perhaps spend(s) five percent of (his) time trying to influence politics and/or government" causes me to wonder just which Falwell Tim is talking about. I'm a graduate of Liberty Seminary, and my frustration with Falwell's chasing of this diversion (and I write as one who writes regularly on political topics!) is immense.
For instance, look at who Falwell has to speak for Liberty's graduations. This year, it was Sean Hannity. I like Sean Hannity, and agree with most of his viewpoints. But he is Roman Catholic; his understanding of the gospel is significantly different than mine, if he is faithful to Catholic teaching (and if he's not, he should leave that institution!). In 2004, it was Karl Rove. KARL ROVE, for crying out loud, political hack extraordinaire (and I say that as a two-time Bush voter). Is Liberty preparing "young champions for Christ", or "young champions for the Republican party"---or sadly, does Falwell even see a difference?
Tim's simplistic article sweeps under the rug the legitimate criticisms that Cal raises. "Faithful are the wounds of a friend", the Bible says; are we wise enough to listen to Cal's words?
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/01/05 11:10:13 AM |
Age 59, WI |
Dear Friends, Thank you for your article. As a housewife and mother, I am just an "occational reader of the news." But, up to now, I had always thought that Cal Thomas was "in the camp" as a Christian who was helping with the the social and political war. I am saddened to see that he is not. Thank you for your witness and stand for God's truth. Thank you for informing we "at work in the house," what is going on outside in the world. Sincerely, Leslie M.
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/01/05 10:06:08 AM |
Age 60, VA |
Great article, Tim. I am wondering how Thomas would judge a house in order vs disorder. I would like to see the results of a survey. Just looking at my own community, the families that are doing the best are those that are active politically.
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Re: Cal Thomas Slams Evangelicals Again?
| Posted On: 07/01/05 09:17:51 AM |
Age 68, WI |
I can't imagine where Cal Thomas is coming from. I used to respect this man for standing up for all christian values and morals. The only thing I can think of is that his popularity is more important to him than his christian beliefs and values. Cal you will be answerable to God. You better examine your concience.
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