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Solomonstoolbox : Was God in the Weather ?
Posted On: 08/28/09 01:41:02 PM Age 53, WI
Solomonstoolbox's Side Panel has a sermon entitled God in the Weather. A few of the questions Pastor Sedlak asked were did God choose sides in the American War for Independence? Did he use the weather on the side of the young nation? If we say that yes to that question, is that an act of special pleading? In other words, did we choose this act because it works for our cause... but we ignore the weather beaten soldiers at Valley Forge? Which is it? This sermon asks and answers very pertinent questions. I think you'll find it enlightening in light of the goings on in Minnestota with the abomination in the Evengelical Lutheran "Church" of America. Does God judge with the weather? If we can't answer positively now, perhaps we will after hearing this message. Thank you for your post.



God in the Wind.
Posted On: 08/27/09 08:34:29 AM Age 58, IL
I absolutely agree, storms are intensifying, and earthquakes becoming more frequent. God's communications with man are intensifying to try and wake us up. I just went to a prophecy conference with Drs Mark Bailey, Dan Green and Mark Hitchcock. We are becoming The Late Great United States.

Was God in the Whirlwind?
Posted On: 08/27/09 08:24:45 AM Age 58, IL
This was definitely an article to wake people up. God's judgement is definite. Romans 2:12- All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.



Not exactly acted upon
Posted On: 08/25/09 05:05:45 PM Age 59, IA
The ELCA powers that be have been pushing the acceptance of homosexuality ever since the church's founding. That includes the editorial board of The Lutheran. However, only recently did they manage to get a previous assembly to suspend a policy defrocking all gay pastors. While the ELCA passed a largely unnoticed statement back in 1991 declaring that homosexuals were "sinners only in the sense that we are all sinners," and welcoming them to participate fully in the lives of its congregations, most ELCA members never even knew about it. I remember well a group of us confessional pastors cornering Mark Thompson of the ELCA Board of Missions at a Synod Assembly over a decade ago just before he was scheduled to speak and confronting him about the attitude of the ELCA powers that be. He was so shaken by the encounter that when he mounted the podium he blurted out, "Why, it may take ten years to get you people to accept homosexuality!"

You got one significant detail wrong
Posted On: 08/25/09 05:00:09 PM Age 59, IA
Two votes were taken on the matter of homosexuality. The first- the one scheduled for the hour when the tornado hit- was by far the more significant of the two. As I understand it, the vote proceeded on schedule. It was a policy statement declaring homosexual relations the moral equivalent of conjugal relations between husband and wife, and OKed the conducting of gay "marriages." This vote required a two-thirds majority, and attained it by a single vote. A small number of delegates had left early because they had dinner reservations. Had they remained, it is possible that the statement would have been defeated. The vote which took place later, authorizing non-celibate gays to be ELCA pastors, was a separate matter, requiring only a majority vote. It passed overwhelmingly.



I came out
Posted On: 08/25/09 03:18:20 PM Age 34, MN
I went to the convention on Friday morning, to pray and I was sadden by what I saw. As I stood in the halls of the convention center and interceded I made it a point to look people in the eyes as they walked by. Many were dead only few had Light. It reminded me of Revelation 3:1- "you have a name that you are a lived, but you are dead on the inside". I was grieved, oh what the Father must feel. The misuse of His Word, Grace, Love and Mercy. I came out of homosexuality in 2001, I was pastoring at the time, and going to Seminary while in the lifestyle. I could never reconcile the lifestyle to Scripture. I am healed and delieverd- Praise GOD! My heart breaks for the ELCA and I continue to intercede for them and those leaving the congregation. Beloved, that tornado was GOD, He was not only talking to the ELCA- but to the Church as a whole! Me must take heed, and align ourselves to His leadership.

Perplexed?
Posted On: 08/25/09 03:05:15 PM Age 62, MO
I can't remember exactly whether it was 1995 or 1996, but my family were members of a small Lutheran church (ELCA). We received a magazine called the "Lutheran." On the front cover of one of the issues was the picture of a woman who had proclaimed to be a lesbian and who had just been ordained as a priest or bishop. My family quickly left the church. Apparently the homosexual issue in the ELCA has been acted on long before now. George Cancilla



Of Course He Was...
Posted On: 08/25/09 02:15:50 PM Age 30, TN
During this nation's infancy days; when Columbus and the Puritans and Pilgrims made their journeys over sea to the land that God had called them to - the "New Promised Land" - they knew full and well when God was speaking to them through the elements of weather. The Scriptures (Bible) is full of example after example of God's warnings and yes, even judgments, through the weather. Let's see, hail raining down on Egypt (Ex. 9:13-35 - interesting how in vv.34 & 35 it says that after that judgement that Pharaoh and his officials hardened their hearts and continued in their sin), drought in the time of Elijah the prophet (1 Kings 17). It seems that our ancient ancestors had no problem recognizing God's hand of judgement in the face of their sins. We, as a Christian nation, have come a long way in how we deal with God's warnings and judgments - we ignore them, it seems. Make no mistake, God is sending a warning to His Church, and not just the Lutheran denomination, but to all. There is no pastor, clergyman, lay-person, or congregation member who is exempt from the warnings and judgments of the Lord Most High. Judgment begins in His House (1 Peter 4:17). Do these people think that He who formed the eye does not see (Psalm 94:9) their BLATANT ignorance of what the Lord calls an ABOMINATION? I believe these warnings and judgments come with the hope and EXPECTATION of repentance unto salvation.

The little boy in the Emporer Story
Posted On: 08/25/09 12:24:02 PM Age 56, NY
I just don't get it. I understand the world being worldly. But how did we get to THIS place? With states fighting and the majority of the population saying they don't want Gay Marriage voted into law, why are church denominations rushing to conventions to validate Homosexuality? Lord, please raise up little boys (or girls) like in the story of the "Emporers New Clothes" to say, "But mom..it just doesn't make sense"!



The ELCA: Subversion and Incrementalism Lead to Apostasy
Posted On: 08/25/09 10:59:46 AM Age 54, TX
My own post on the ELCA clergy roster incorporation of practicing homosexuals and lesbians may be seen at "Mark Dankof's America" at Word Press. I briefly discussed the issue on my Republic Broadcasting Network show on Sunday morning.

Amen~ GOD is in the whirlwind
Posted On: 08/25/09 10:25:23 AM Age 55, TN
Dear Jan As a Christian who was blessed to grow up in a conservative Lutheran family and church, I and my family are broken hearted at this latest decision by the ELCA. Thank you for your insight and Biblical perspective which in my opinion are totally correct. GOD will not be mocked! GOD bless you. Sincerely, Gail Sorensen



Whirlwind
Posted On: 08/25/09 09:36:07 AM Age 53, TN
If God allows something then He willed it. Everything that happens in this world is in God's control. Everything God does is because of His goodwill and pleasure. God works in mysterious ways and we cannot begin to understand why except that He is in control and His will is always done.

God in the wind
Posted On: 08/25/09 09:26:29 AM Age 58, NC
I personally believe that God was in that tornado as a sign and warning of how He is going to deal with sin in the Church and this nation. I believe we will see God use the elements of nature more and more to get His point across concerning His anger toward Apostasy in the Church and sin in this nation. When you cry out, let your collection of idols deliver you. But the wind will carry them all away, a breathe will take them. But he who puts his trust in Me shall possess the land, and shall inherit MY holy mountain ( Isaiah 57 13 ).



HOMOSEXUALITY LOOKS FILTHY IN THE LIGHT
Posted On: 08/25/09 04:49:38 AM Age 65, OH
Jude speaks of these men that voted for sexual immorality. - 4For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. 5Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. 8In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. 9But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" 10Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them. 11Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam's error; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion. 12These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. 14Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." 16These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. - These men have said that "chase" homosexual relationships are OK contrary to what The Lord Himself has said. That is like saying that it is OK to abort children as long as they are "chase" or in your family. It is the same as saying it is OK to murder your spouse as long as it is "chase" or your own spouse that you murder. There is no way to make murder OK even "chase" murder. There is no way to make homosexuality OK. It is sin. Can the oral ingestion of human fecal matter, not be sin, as long as you ingest this fecal matter from just one person and not many. This is the practice of homosexuality and there is no way to make it clean. It is so shameful we do not want to even speak of it. But if we do not bring their behavior in the open, the homosexuals certainly will not. There is one way to stop homosexuality. That is to make everyone aware of what homosexuals do. Their behavior will not look so good if brought out into the light. - Lou Newton

Of course he broke the steeple!
Posted On: 08/25/09 03:02:18 AM Age 47, FL
This is proof that Christians don't beget Christians only God does. Two believers could have 10 kids and probably none of them will be chosen of God, but they will be indoctrinated into church customs, doctrine and ritual. Before the first generation of believers was through, Jesus Christ gave 5 out of 7 a failing grade (Revelation). Before 3 generations were past the church accepted millions of pagans into their fold. The reformation basicly devided the pagans into two. according to doctrine, the few believers in those camps followed the protestants to their own destrustion. As for steeples, why would a group of people spend money on a worthless piece of archetectual pride? I'm sure God hates steeples!

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