You're right
| Posted On: 05/23/09 05:02:17 AM |
Age 46, PA |
Thanks for the insight. I have actuall thrown out ALL my KJV Bible for I found all all the criterea KJ established for it writing. One of the main reason we still have clergy after the reformation is because of the KJV. KJ wanted to be head of the Church (Christ is the head) and have his underlings clergy under his command, so he had the interperters fudge in the Clergy that we still have today in the false church.
As for America it too is a fraud, founded by non Christ followers. Notice I didn't say christians or believers whom I believer are seldom Chirst followers!
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Handbook
| Posted On: 05/21/09 10:20:24 PM |
Age 35, OH |
To answer your question no, it does not. Masonry only states that man of any faith can join the organization. We do not require a man belong to a particular faith because we are not a religion, only a fraternity. This is why we address God as the "Supreme Architect of the Universe." Our members pray to their individual God. Do I think they are right if they are not Christian? No, of course I don't. Might I try to evangelize them? Yes. But that does not make us incompatible with Christianity.
Signed,
A Christian, a Mason, and proud of it!
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Masonic Bible
| Posted On: 05/21/09 10:15:51 PM |
Age 35, OH |
Actually, Masons use the exact same Bible as everyone else. The only difference is usually a place in the frnt to write the names of those who were there when you joined, much like a family Bible. Sometimes the verses of scripture that are quoted in the ceremonies (and yes, Bible verses are quoted quite a bit, in contex I might add) are highlighted. The book refered to in this article was some kind of handbook, not a Bible. And while I am not from Kentucky I can tell you it is not something I have heard or seen in any other Masonic lodge I have been in. It is most like a hoax.
Signed,
A Past Master, a Christian, and proud of it!
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Finally you take things seriously...........
| Posted On: 05/18/09 06:26:58 PM |
Age 00, NY |
Finally you guys take a real stand against this evil. God Bless you.
"Many sorrows with follow those who seek after another God." Ps16:4 What do you think will happen if we seek after many gods? 'The wicked will be turned into Hell and all the nations that forget God." Psalms 9:17
"If he drawns back by soul will have no Pleasure in him. But we are not of those who draw back and are destroyed, But those who believe and are saved." Hebrews 10:38-39
Ophra Winfrey was exposing her heart and beliefs. She is a Masons too. And many are in Hollywood. Hollywood the industry was born out of the Freemasonry. Every evil introduced into this county has come through the Freemanson right through supposed Christians. Ophra rejected the Lord Jesus Christ because is a Jealous God and will no other god's be for Him. But there is no other gods, but devils. Psalms 106:36-40 So this moving toward a one world goverment is to worship one god.It is the Worship of Satan Himself.
As always Brannon House. You are always the best!
Danny
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Amen
| Posted On: 05/18/09 07:58:38 AM |
Age 46, PA |
Amen. If you are born into the church why must we "go" to church. The earthly church is a fraud, join togather with another follower IF you can find one!
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Needing Grace Daily
| Posted On: 05/17/09 02:45:51 PM |
Age 46, TN |
re: Should a Christian be a Mason? and others.
The things you mentioned are good, some even great. What about the charge in the article? Does Masonry teach that all ways lead to god? What does Jesus say about the path to G-d? If these charges are correct AND what Jesus said is true (and it must be) then what does this say about one who attempts to embrace both religions? Don't defend your family and yourself, defend your faith and the Truth. May your faith and the truth be the same.
We can't undo what those that went before us did but shouldn't we refuse to embrace their wrongs. If the masons bow to all gods then let those with ears to hear hear. Who will tell them? Who loves them as much as their own family?
My father will not HEAR an honest question about or an accusation against masonry. Perhaps it is indefensible.
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Free Masonry
| Posted On: 05/17/09 02:20:23 PM |
Age 44, LA |
God is the only source of truth. Jesus is God incarnate. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life and no man comes to the Father EXCEPT through Me." That is one of many statements concerning the doctrinal beliefs of Christianity that run contrary to every other religion in the world. Consequently all other teachings are false and to support that false teaching is to support what is anti-Christ. Free masons are anti-Christ.
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You proved your point?
| Posted On: 05/17/09 06:37:38 AM |
Age 49, TN |
Dear 'I Disagree', Why can't you see that the whole idea of 'not' discriminating is the very thing true Christians have a problem with. Jesus did not say, 'believe whoever you choose'. He said 'I am God, Creator, Savior, and there is NO OTHER WAY to truth and life except through me. PERIOD. I am the truth.'
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THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
| Posted On: 05/17/09 12:19:11 AM |
Age 65, OH |
Norm, this nation was NOT founded on principles of ALL religions. It was founded on Christianity and The Bible. It was not founded on the Koran or any other book other than the Bible. General Washington appointed Christian chaplains for his army. He did not appoint one non Christian chaplain. Washington allowed each group in his army that was from a certain town, and all from the same Christian church, to have a chaplain from their Christian denomination. Washington then ORDERED his men and officers to attend Christian services every Sunday. General Washington also gave orders for any man who used the Lord's name in vain to be disciplined. He also issued orders for his army to fast and pray to The Lord Jesus Christ at times. It all seemed to work pretty well for Washington, for that small rag tag army defeated the mightiest empire on the earth. - Lou Newton
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Masonic salvation
| Posted On: 05/16/09 09:45:25 PM |
Age 49, TN |
I had for many years had my suspicions about masonry, since my uncle was a 33rd degree Scottish Rite, and my parents always warned me about them. But it wasn’t until about 24 years ago that my wife and I spent several hours listening to a close friend tell about her recent experience at a co-workers Masonic funeral. She shared that they, the masons, were adamant that this man’s salvation and eternity were solely in the hands of the life, deeds and prayers of his fellow masons.
Nothing about our blameless Christ, nothing about his atoning work on the cross, nothing at all really to do about Christ. It was all about the worldly works of men who insisted on making ungodly and unbiblical and bloody oaths, and who accept members from all faiths and call them ‘brothers’.
It is totally beyond my understanding how anyone can call on the name of Jesus Christ and not see the total depravity of such an ungodly organization.
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Toss out the KJV!
| Posted On: 05/16/09 11:10:29 AM |
Age 50, OH |
King James of England was a Freemason. Perhaps you should toss the Bible translation he commissioned, since it's benefactor was inspired by "evil spirits."
For that matter, you should renounce your American citizenship, since more than half the founding fathers were Freemasons. How do you know that when you pledge allegiance to the Flag that you are not secretly declaring your allegiance to Lucifer?
This is just plain silly, and this web site is irresponsible for promoting this kind of paranoia.
Just because an organization seeks to be ecumenical in allowing all persons of faith to become members without fear of recrimination doesn't make them satanic. It makes them REASONABLE. You should be careful about who you call satanic. I believe it is a very serious sin to give credit to Satan what is not of Satan.
If you believe that this country is a "Christian Nation," as I've seen repeated over and over again on this particular web site, then you have partly to thank Freemasonry. By NOT making this country subservient to one particular religious faith, but embracing differing opinions, it has survived over the years.
The Masons are quite up front about their non-allegiance to any one particular religion. They acknowledge that religion is useful for success in life and society.
Funny, my biggest gripe against the Masons - and the only reason I am not a member - is that they do not allow women to become full members. But, oh -that's right! Most Christian groups don't allow women to be full members either.
Maybe I ought to rethink that one!
Seriously, there are more pressing issues to address than Freemasonry. Sheesh! Don't believe all the goofy books and movies. Masons are good people.
NORM
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Have you read THEIR Bible?
| Posted On: 05/16/09 12:38:27 AM |
Age 38, TX |
I have actually seen a copy of the Bible they claim to honor and I can tell you, it's not the same one sold at stores around my town or yours and it doesn't teach the same things that the ones I have teach. P95 is only the tip of the iceberg. A pastor friend/neighbor joined the Mason group in our town & it split his church b/c of it. Good old boys society...absolutely and yes, it is secretive. Sad to say my grandfather was a part of this group but died when I was a kid. They may do many good things but that doesn't glaze over all the other things in my eyes or in the Lord's. If you are a part of the Masons, be sure you know what you have gotten yourself into. Ignorance isn't an excuse.
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yes, let's talk about (un)truth
| Posted On: 05/15/09 11:48:45 PM |
Age 24, OH |
Beyond the mystery of its secrecy, you fail to get to the heart of the matter:
Is it true or untrue that the Masonic handbook reads as stated in the post?
That is, does it advocate religious pluralism in place of Christian exclusivism?
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Masons and Catholics
| Posted On: 05/15/09 07:37:18 PM |
Age 63, LA |
You use the Catholic religion to back up your opinion. Although there are Catholics that are in fact Christian, for the most part they are not, because to be a Christian one must be saved by the blood of Jesus and not by baptism or works. So using them as a Christian example does not validate your argument about Masons. Catholism does have its secrets, but true Christianity does not. Born again bible believing Christians don't have secret societies, etc. Masons and other organizatins like them are founded on paganism.
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One of our deacons is a mason...
| Posted On: 05/15/09 04:27:27 PM |
Age 50, USA |
One of our deacons is a mason. Our present & past pastors don't seem to have a problem with this fact.
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SATAN BELIEVES IN ONE GOD
| Posted On: 05/15/09 11:46:25 AM |
Age 65, OH |
Dear friend, you say the masons believe in a supreme being; James 2:19 19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. - Satan himself not only believes in One God but Satan knows that there is One God and that is why he shudders at the fact. But Jesus said, Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.- As we can see the Devil will go into eternal fire because he knew that there was One God Almighty and did not worship Him in Spirit and Truth. 2 Cor 11:14 for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.-Jesus told us about Satan, John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.- Satan is the father of lies and anyone who teaches these lies of Satan makes themselves his servants as the pharisees did. The pharisees believed in the Bible and they claimed to follow the God of the Bible, but we can see that Jesus called them children of Satan. Believing in one god will save no one. A person has to seek the One and Only true God Almighty and hear from Him. Let God Himself tell you what he is like by reading the Holy Bible for yourself and be saved. - Lou Newton
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WHY GET ANGRY
| Posted On: 05/15/09 10:23:05 AM |
Age 65, OH |
Dear friend, I did not detect one bit of anger in David's article or the responses. You seem to be the one who is angry. If someone attacks The Lord Jesus Christ people do not get angry but they get sad. But look in the book of Judges and see how the town got very angry when Gideon burnt the false idols of the town. Satan inspires this anger. The people of the town got angry because they worshiped pieces of stone and wood; the stone and wood could not defend itself, so the people had to try to kill Gideon to defend their gods. Otherwise anyone could see that the idols were powerless and worthless. Any time someone says something about any of our beliefs, if we get angry, it is a sign that our belief is false. This is why the Muslims are so angry and violent. They have to murder for their false god, for their false god can not talk, or walk, or act. The One and Only True Creator of all that exists is much different. Jesus Christ says vengeance is His and He will defend Himself. This is because He is The Life, The Truth, and The way and the One and Only Almighty God. - Lou Newton
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Find something better to complain about
| Posted On: 05/15/09 08:47:43 AM |
Age 56, TN |
Sigh. I was going to use the title "Here we go again", but it was already used. I am a Christian and a Mason. Please do your homework and get your facts straight. Masonry is not a secret society: its meeting places are well-marked and its membership rosters are public. Christianity is a secret society. Have you ever heard of the underground church? Have you ever heard the words from the liturgy, "The doors! The doors! In wisdom let us attend!" That is when all catechumens must leave and the liturgy of the faithful, open only to baptized Christians begins. Mason-hating and Mason-bashing are not new. If you want to get your eyes opened, do a Google search for Leo Taxil to learn of the great liar and swindler who promulgated much of the bilge that anti-masons today spout. God is not honored by presenting untruth in his cause.
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organization
| Posted On: 05/14/09 07:43:57 PM |
Age 71, MN |
Our church excludes Masons from membership,for the obvious reason that there is only One way to salvation and that is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ. I am a member of this church, and would disagree with the comment we shouldn't be a member of an organization, I believe my church is a tool used by God and an avenue for me to be used by God for His purposes.
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Free masonry Christian?
| Posted On: 05/14/09 07:40:27 PM |
Age 73, IL |
I had the same experience back in the mid 50's. I was a TV repairman and my wifes uncle who had a barber shop wanted me to join his lodge and said it was good for success. Whenhe told me Jesus was only a prophet and all religions point to God I refused. Even as I was Catholic at the time I knew his doctrines denied Christ and just couldn't go for it.
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