Hey Jim
| Posted On: 07/13/08 07:39:07 AM |
Age 61, MO |
God didn't give any governance except Jesus Christ. He allowed monarchs and dictators who exalted themselves to such positions, and he allowed a democratic republican form of government in the U.S. He ALLOWED. He did not ordain. So it is erroneous to say that a monarchy was the only acceptable form of government to God. Their is a proscription for civil government in Romans 13, but the criteria is that it bear the sword for the good. It says nothing about what form of government it should be. George Cancilla
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AMEN
| Posted On: 07/12/08 12:16:53 PM |
Age 64, OH |
Amen, Jim I think you have spoken well. Lou
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What Does Jesus Think of Your Words and Heart Behind Those Words?
| Posted On: 07/11/08 08:33:02 PM |
Age 40, NH |
Do you know for sure 48 MO is not a brother? Are you sure he will be, "left behind?" And even if you answer yes to both above questions, would Jesus speak to someone with such a flippant and uncaring attitude about his or her eternal destiny?
We are to speak with grace, seasoned with salt to others, not as though they are a movie character and it doesn't matter in reality.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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GOD NEVER WANTED A MAN TO RULE
| Posted On: 07/10/08 12:31:19 AM |
Age 64, OH |
Hi Jim; But the colonies did petition the King and his answer was to send an army to kill them. They then defended themselves as you say you would. It was never God's will that Israel have a king. God told them that the King would do evil to them just as George did. It was God's will that Israel be ruled by God Himself. God would speak through a man of His choosing like Samuel. Lou
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TJ Was Close to a Libertarian and a Deist
| Posted On: 07/09/08 08:32:31 PM |
Age 40, NH |
I notice you didn't even attempt to debunk TJ's cut and paste job that removed all miracles from Scripture. Wonder why you didn't do that...
TJ took out all the miracles of Scripture because he said that God didn't interfere in the affairs of men. What belief system does that fit? He also sent Bibles along with missionaries to the "savages" even though he obviously didn't believe that Jesus performed miracles or was deity.
TJ was a libertarian (almost) who had no problems with any religion unless it got in the way of another.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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Hey Lou
| Posted On: 07/09/08 08:28:36 PM |
Age 40, NH |
Hi Lou,
There was no REAL guarantee of 13 republics according to the confederate states constitution, it was on paper only. But most importantly, it was a confederacy and not a republic that was the central governmental form.
Most importantly, God did not ordain this with His blessing or institution. When He gave a form of governance, it was a monarchy.
And I would hope to follow the teachings of my savior, His word through others and His actions and allow it while petitioning the government for redress. If it didn't come, it would be a sin to do otherwise (unless there was a real and known threat to my family's safety of which I am commanded in Scripture to protect as much as I can).
What I desire as a man and what God expects are usually different.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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HOW BAD DOES A GOVERNMET HAVE TO GET BEFORE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEPARATE FROM THEM
| Posted On: 07/08/08 06:20:45 PM |
Age 64, OH |
But the new nation was a confederacy of republics and NOT a confederacy of kingdoms. Do you mean to tell me that if our government came to your door and forced their way in and stationed soldiers in your home against your will, that you would do nothing. Lou
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Rich?
| Posted On: 07/07/08 05:49:30 PM |
Age 55, FL |
I wish I were a filthy rich rapture predictor. Even poor, I am still a rapture predictor, but I still have 30 years to be proved wrong! And if you saw my age, you would see I probably won't know I was wrong, even if I were still alive. Get real. Rapture or no rapture, we will all stand before God. Your understanding of history is what we call brainwashed. After we leave you behind, have Brannon leave you the keys so you can keep posting!
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We must walk with Christ today
| Posted On: 07/07/08 04:40:05 PM |
Age 61, MO |
I agree with all of your comments. We only fool ourselves if we think we are something we are not. George Cancilla
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Does it matter?
| Posted On: 07/07/08 12:29:38 PM |
Age 55, FL |
America is collapsing around us, and you are arguing about Deists. It doesn't matter what the founders were. What matters is what we are now, and what we want to be. America is not what most American Christians think it is. Due to WWII and the Cold War, the government tweaked the history in our texts, and as usual, Hollywood followed suit. What are we now? We are like the Babylonian harlot of Revelation spewing our filth across the globe. It has been so effective that 3/4 of Kiev 14 year olds wanted to grow up to be a prostitute according to a survey in 1998. They see our Hollywood stuff, and believe our people are having sex on pool tables, car hoods, and whatever else Hollywood shows. The NonGovernmentOrganizations (NGO) are taking women's rights, homosexuality, and abortion across the globe. That is what the Orange Revolution was ultimately about, not freedom, but licentiousness. America has been so successful at this that the self-respecting Moslems have been fighting back. Get our house in order, and the Moslem threat will vanish, because no one wants that kind of life these days, but some restraint is necessary. Wake up. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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TJ Was Not A Christian
| Posted On: 07/05/08 09:21:58 PM |
Age 40, NH |
TJ did a "cut and paste" with the Bible that removed the miraculous. He was not a Christian. All one has to do is to read a TJ Bible to discover that.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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Bad Theology and History
| Posted On: 07/05/08 11:41:55 AM |
Age 40, NH |
A nation borne of rebellion against God's commands and legal authority makes not for a "Christian" nation.
The framers did not originally intend to guarantee a republican form of government either, they gave us a Confederacy.
If Yahweh intended man to have a republican form of government as His choice, He would have given it to the Israelites, which He did not. He gave them the laws and was their King originally. His people needed a governmental system made for them with humans at the helm so He gave them a monarchy, not republicanism.
Witherspoon is the only framer we can be certain (as certain as we can be with anybody) to be a Christian.
Unfortunately, Bradford's study requires a person to assume that those who speak of religious and moral people (at least with the framers) must be Christians. Anybody who doesn't add TJ as a deist when all his actions indicate him to be one is fooling no one but themselves.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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Big Lies must always be debunked by truth
| Posted On: 07/03/08 10:05:11 PM |
Age 48, MO |
This is an excellent column. We must read and share these and other truths about American history, and debunk all liberal myth every time we encounter them. At the same time, we should stop trying to predict a time period when the Rapture will happen, because those predictions have all been wrong. Say YES to Brannon Howse and David Barton, and NO to Hal Lindsey, Creflo Dollar, Tim LaHaye, John Hagee, and the other filthy-rich Rapture predictors.
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Thomas Jefferson
| Posted On: 07/03/08 04:54:05 PM |
Age 50, SD |
I was wondering why you wanted to talk about Thomas Jefferson. Is it because he is considered to be a deist? Or did you want to discuss his attendance at church in the House of Representatives building when he was in Washington? Or was there a question about the books (the Bible and Watts hymnal) he required to be used for reading in school when he was on the District "school board". Possibly we could discuss the "...endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights" phrase in the Declaration?
Just wondering.
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THE WIDOWS TWO MITES
| Posted On: 07/03/08 10:31:34 AM |
Age 64, OH |
About 25 years ago I was fired for having a likeness of Jesus holding a lamb in His arms on my desk. The Chief Engineer was a Buddhist and was offended by it. The whole Engineering dept was filled with people who went to church and professed to be Christians. Not one person came to my defense. Not one thought our rights worth fighting for. If they could fire me for this than anyone could be fired for anything. That whole manufacturing company closed a few years later and all lost their jobs including the Buddhist. I was promoted by the Lord Jesus. I used to be a engineer and He called me to preach. Years later I was thanked by some men who worked in the shop for what I did ( I refused to remove the picture). I did not anyone even knew of this. You never know who is watching how we respond to a situation. Like the widow who threw two mites into the box, some of our actions will reverberate throughout the universe for all eternity. They will either speak for Jesus or against Jesus. there is no middle ground. Lou
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JEFFERSON
| Posted On: 07/03/08 10:16:57 AM |
Age 64, OH |
Jefferson was a deist and had a real talent for writing words that inspired. But if one looks at his life, his walk does not measure up to his talk. The more I read of Washington, the more I admire him. The more I read of Jefferson the more I do not want to be like him. Washington did not like Jefferson even a little bit. Lou
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Copy this article
| Posted On: 07/03/08 07:04:10 AM |
Age 51, FL |
and keep it in your wallet or purse to let others read when this subject comes up. Well researched and well said.
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Christ is Truth
| Posted On: 07/02/08 03:32:17 PM |
Age 61, MO |
We shouldn't have to justify the roots of our American government and society, that they were founded on Christian principles, as if they weren't then we have some sort of exscuse for being majorly iniquitous today. Without at least the moral ethic of the Bible, it would be very difficult to operate a free society or republican form of government. Don't let the fact that our ancestors made many mistakes and fell short of the glory of God, stop us from trusting Christ for our own walk, and pray that our brothers and sisters will follow suit. George Cancilla
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Framers vs. Founders
| Posted On: 07/02/08 08:43:54 AM |
Age 42, NY |
Good points, but I would change the title and the use of the words "founders." The correct word in this case would be "framers." If you want to talk about America's Founding Fathers, one should really look almost two centuries before the ratification of the Constitution of the United States. If you look at the Founders of Jamestown, Plymouth, and Massachusetts Bay you will probably find even less evidence of deism.
- Joe
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Lewis and Clark Revisionist History
| Posted On: 07/02/08 08:32:27 AM |
Age 53, AR |
I just returned from a vacation. We went to the Big Arch in St. Louis and saw the Lewis and Clark film. The film said Lewis and Clark thought they were "lucky" to have survived the amazing journey. If you search their journals for the word "providence", you'll find they thanked God for keeping them safe. If you can't homeschool your kids and grandkids, at least show them how the establishment is lying (yes, I said lying) to them.
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