Revival
| Posted On: 06/17/08 04:55:30 PM |
Age 46, AK |
Dear Brethren:
I too will not participate in what is taking
place in Florida. I come from a conservative background that turned charismatic to the Lord taking us out of church and into His Word for years to show us Truth and sound Doctrine. I do believe
in the supernatual acts of God and have
seen genuine and false.
God changes not and again I do believe in signs and wonders of Him, the Bible is evident that continues along with His Spiritual gifts which were given upon Christ's ascension for the equipping of the saints even today. But signs and wonders
ALWAYS followed the preaching of the Word
in the New Testament. Sound doctrine
and Christ crucified is what we are to
preach.
I do believe all things must be measured by Scripture and God will not contradict. But
I also believe God does still speak audibly
to us and it will not be apart from the Written Word. We do have personal relationships with Him. But I don't think someone has a private pipeline to that type of experience daily, for the most part, we have His Word. No Scripture is given to any one man for private interpretation either.
We are seeing people "idolizing" these big
name "evangelists". Following after ministries and not after God. People have
forgotten to be a Berean to search out the
Scriptures for themselves and test all things taught and experienced.
We are seeing experience being put above
the Word. ERROR!! Experience can never
alone testify of Truth. We are not to
change the Word to make the experience
fit, but to the experience must always
fit within God's nature, character, Word.
I don't believe that because something
is not spelled out specifically in black
and white in the Word can't be from God
either---meaning---God could do an amazing
thing such as-- a woman I know was drowning
in a river and she said she felt a large
hand lift her onto the river bank. Now
we might not find that in Scripture
exactly but it does NOT contradict God's
nature of saving and help.
We are not to focus on angles, but rather we know they exist and are sent according to God's own Words to minister to us as
He alone wills. He commands His angels.
People did have brief conversations
in the Bible with them, but it was always
in response to what God had sent them to do,
they did not come to be personal servants
to man. Conversations were brief.
I do think that this is coming from God---
in this way---those who believe and LOVE
a lie will be given over to strong delusion
that the Father will send HIMSELF. I believe this is a great sifting of those
who will stand for Truth and those who
are easily swayed by false.
But I agree that we do not wrestle against
flesh and blood and that we should not
bite and devour one another or be personal.
Nor should we be silent. But our handling
of this situation must be with a heart of
restoration and correction in love, yet
not with insipid hearts. We must hate the
lie and false but love the Truth.
We need to pray for God's mercy on those
who are attending that are sincerely seeking
God and falling into this out of ignorance.
We also need to pray for God to bring
strong correction on those who are mature
and willfully subverting the Truth.
The lame did walk, the dead were raised,
the blind did see, and I believe these
things still happen today by faith according
to God's will and Word.
But the display and antics we see taking
place in this revival are defiling a HOLY
God. Bringing shame to a God of perfection,
order, Holiness.
Without Truth in all things we then witness
the flesh which turns to the demonic.
Motivations may have started out good,
intentions are for a true move of God
but when man tries to bring about the
things of God in HIS OWN WISDOM and WAYS,
we have a mix of profane and holy. Just
like Nadab and Abihu offered strange fire
before the Lord, they thought it was good,
but they had already been trained and given
instruction on correct worship. Judgement
was swift and destruction was complete.
I too believe that this revival will bring
spiritual destruction by mixing the holy
and the profane.
We see fruit already in that this is
causing much division and strife in
the church. We must not choose any side
but the side of Truth and God's holiness in much fear. Let God deal with His people,
and may He have mercy at the same time.
Dr. Linda Sio
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End time deception
| Posted On: 06/17/08 01:30:06 PM |
Age 66, CO |
You are so right on. It is alarming to me how easily people and Christians can be deceived. In my observation through the years I believe it's because of their lack of knowledge of His Word (the Bible). We have 40 year old christians who have never progressed from infancy and who's to blame? Their leaders, those in the pulpit who have spewed a fuzzy warm social gospel the last 50 years.
It's very easy to identify a fraud if you know what the genuine looks like. Just like a banker who knows the difference between fake and real bills. We need to be in the Word to be able to recognize the fakes because were working from a solid foundation of Truth. Keep up the good work that you are doing by informing the Christian community of the deception in the world today so nieve and innocent children of God will not be caught up in it. In these end times we will see an increase in this deception so more then ever we need Godly wisdom that comes from His Word. Maranatha
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wow
| Posted On: 06/17/08 12:48:19 PM |
Age 50, OR |
don't know what to say. I think only God can truly know who Todd Bentley is and what he is doing. The Church in the US is so divided and messed up and we are all slinging hate and critisism around while masses are dying and going to hell. I only know Mr. Bently is talking about Jesus and maybe he is out of line, I don't know. The mass media never talks about Jesus and when they do it's either negative or they say "yea he's cool and all that but so what." I may not know what to think until I am standing in that church filled with the spirit:then I may know but until then I withhold judgement and so should everyone else.
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Weeping and gnashing of teeth
| Posted On: 06/17/08 12:47:07 PM |
Age 61, MO |
With Floods, earthquakes, fires, droughts, a food crisis, an economic crisis all happening at once around America, this is NOT a time for this sort of Todd Bentley blasphemy. America is going under the hand of Judgment. Indeed that hand is now beginning to show itself more and more clearly to the discerning Christian. Our Economy is collapsing. This is not merely a recession, but will soon be a full blown depression. Today most people do not want to hear God's truth. They roll their eyes or run away as soon as you mention God and his ways. The Churches, by and large, are not preaching the word of God, but rather New Age mumbo-jumbo that sounds religious but isn't. We have false revivals, false prophets, false evangelists of every stripe deceiving the people. Very few are warning about the things that are happening, and that are to come to America. We must prepare our hearts accordingly and cling to the Savior, Jesus Christ. Those of us who truly know him should have no fear, because He will see us through these times. Those that don't know Him should be afraid, because the disasters that are now happening are only the beginning of what will befall the US. Sadly, most Americans I see are completely oblivious to what is happening. I believe it is part of a spiritual blindness. Many have taken a drink from the cup that the Great Harlot gives to all who serve her. It is called deceit. Most Americans are drunken from the cup of this harlot and can no longer see what is happening. Many people are blind and ignorant of our spiritual, economic, and political fate. The call for America to corporately repent has ceased. She has gone too far. There will be no general or mass revival. Now is the time for individuals to save themselves by coming to the Cross and serving the only one who can save us: Jesus Christ. George Cancilla
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Bam! Bam! Bam!- Todd Bently
| Posted On: 06/17/08 10:52:49 AM |
Age 66, PA |
Let's be sure of what we are talking about with the revival in Lakeland. Listen with an open heart. We could miss an important move across the world God is doing in our time to draw people to Himself. He does work in marvelous and mysterious ways.
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In response to Marsha West - Lakeland article
| Posted On: 06/17/08 09:56:18 AM |
Age 43, TX |
I think I would be more inclined to consider the points in this article if the same rule that is required of us bloggers applied to writers. We are asked to refrain from personal attacks thus encouraging healthy debate. The article written by Marsha West regarding the Lakeland meetings with Todd Bentley is sprinkled with personal attacks. What does a person's weight, bald head or ailing health have to do with discerning a move of God? I don't need venom, hate or sarcasm to sway me one way or the other. This article did not warn me, it defiled me. I would prefer getting exhortation with sound biblical teachings that impart wisdom. Ms. West had to ignore all 9 fruits of the Spirit to make her point, not to mention the many biblical accounts of how God uses the foolish things to confound the wise. Ms. West I don't believe you know what spirit you are of.
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Todd Bentley
| Posted On: 06/17/08 09:20:56 AM |
Age 61, MO |
The fact that the Todd Bently brand of "Christianity" attracts such a large audience, bodes ill for humanity. The Bible does prophecy such apostasy, and even futher does prophecy the Body of Christ, the Church militant on earth, will die completely before Christ returns. I am not saying that their will not be small enclaves of believers everywhere, but the Church as a missionary force will die. I believe I can smell its rotting body. George Cancilla
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read Mat 7 : 3-5
| Posted On: 06/17/08 09:01:45 AM |
Age 47, WI |
I hear writers complain and even pass judgement on what Todd has done. I have seen cases of some who in appearance might have had poor displeship, and a lack of biblical accountablity in there lives. What I don't hear is anyone confronting or talking to him about these situations. The instruction to the people involved is run away and don't confront the man with the Truth. As for demons Jesus confronted legion, and there were angles named in the bible, I can think of 2. There also seems to be a aspect of if it don't look like my church it is wrong. Christian history shows us every time we try to box God in our denominations He jumps out of it.
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God's Word speaks of counterfeit miracles
| Posted On: 06/17/08 08:16:12 AM |
Age 45, MD |
In Rev 16:14 "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles", and 19:20 "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him"
Also, in the Old Testament (Exodus), the Egyptian magicians WERE able to duplicate:
(1) turning their staves into asps (though Aaron's asp proved the counterfeit by eating those of the magicians)
(2) turning water into blood
(3) producing lots of frogs
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Todd Bently
| Posted On: 06/17/08 07:23:06 AM |
Age 52, CO |
Something is happening in Florida for all these people to be flocking there and taking it back to their fellow believers. I believe the Lord is getting his Sheep ready -- and that involves making their bodies healthy to do his work in this world during the end times.
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