McManus
| Posted On: 01/19/08 08:09:35 PM |
Age 61, MO |
“The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” (Rom 8:16-18).
We have God’s promises, IF we suffer with him. Faith is not simply a matter of assenting to the Truth of some Bible verses, and then going around and declaring them, and confessing that they must come to pass, because God said so! Faith comes by personally submitting ourselves to Jesus as our personal Lord, then asking God to do whatever it takes to bring us under Christ; and what that will take is the Cross. “If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.” (Matthew 16:21-25). George Cancilla
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I agree
| Posted On: 01/18/08 11:42:45 AM |
Age 52, CA |
I attended a Mosaic church plant for 7 months. I ended up there mainly because a bunch of my friends were there after the church we were attending went through some drastic changes. Mosaic seems so great on the surface. I really enjoyed it at first. Then I started to realize that the message was always the "positive gospel". It was sort of like "you are great, but with Christ you can be even better". Besides attending the church, I started listening to sermons by Erwin and reading his books. I was shocked in one sermon when faced with the question is there a hell? Erwin said he preferred to dwell on the positive, not the negative. In other words he refused to answer the question. When asked is Christ the only way, he indicated that Christ is the only one that truly loves you, so why not go towards the love.
These are just 2 of the truck load of reasons that caused me to leave Mosaic. There is not enough room to list the rest. There was so much error that I had to leave.I went back to the denomination that I came from and so glad I did. It's so good to hear the whole gospel on a regular basis. It is so nice to experience God's presence again. I am glad to be back home.
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maximum potential
| Posted On: 01/18/08 10:42:31 AM |
Age 23, MEXICO |
Well, I'd say that Mr McManus is offering just exactly what he can give:
to bring out our maximum potential and to make ourselves glow with our own shine...... poor of him and those that believe that that is all we can ever be.
There's so much more in Jesus and a humble "me" than in "me" alone, so sad all those humanists can't see that.
We should pray for Mr McManus and everyone else that aren't "getting the whole picture" on what God and all of His teachings have to offer.
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McManus
| Posted On: 01/18/08 10:38:03 AM |
Age 61, MO |
What McManus and the other purpose driven and emergent churches are doing is gathering up unbelievers to form a cohesive force against the True Church. Judging from their numbers, they have been quite successful. I am sure the Holy Spirit will judge their efforts, and convict those who have been ensnared by them. We who are watchmen can know that we have sounded an alarm. George Cancilla
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McManus Article
| Posted On: 01/18/08 09:54:17 AM |
Age 54, WI |
Sorry to hear that you take such exception to McManus. I have found him to be both biblical and credible in his teaching. In fact, it is a similar message we preach when going into WI. prisons to preach the good news of the gospel.
Please don't forget that Jesus tells us that we are the light of the world and that we will do greater things than He did. Paul tells us that we are more than conquerors and that we have the mind of Christ. Oh, and there is that little thing about God giving everything to us that He has gave to Jesus!
Certainly Romans is true... for pre-regenerate people. We have no merit other than what Christ has done. But now, we are IN Christ and He is IN us! That changes everything!
We are called his Bride, which leads me to think that when we are in Christ, God is seeing something in His people to cause Him to "betroth" Himself to us. A big part of what the mainstream church has missed is exactly what you are writing against. It is the day of the saints. The true church is finally rising up and walking into our destinies.
McManus is correct in calling us up into a higher place.
We are Kings kids and I don't know about you, but I for one want to partake of the inheritance we are promised and the Kingdom which Jesus said is at hand and I want to participate in the divine nature.
Don't miss what God is doing now! These are exciting times! God is moving!
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Sad Commentary
| Posted On: 01/18/08 07:59:39 AM |
Age 53, OH |
It is sad to read your articles, which seem to me to be more interested in creating division than really seeking after the truth. You have reduced the Scriptures to a few narrow theological concepts which largely ignore the historical context in which Jesus was speaking and moving. And much like the pharisees of his day, the most "religious," of the time, you miss so much in condemning others who are genuining seeking the life-giving power of our Savior. Call it eastern mysticism or whatever to make your point. Nonetheless, you are missing the deeper elements of the Gospel by reducing it to a few theological propositions.
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I have the potential of gaining Heaven if...
| Posted On: 01/18/08 06:27:34 AM |
Age 65, CA |
You are right on in your analysis of this potential movement.
We all have the potential to be saved, simply because we are all sinners.
We all have the potential to gain Heaven simply because we all can be saved for salvation.
Potential is nothing special...simply because we all have it.
I have the potential to be discerning enough to ignore this "movement", however, I must exercise my discernment and ignore the lies that have the potential to kill me...
Neal S Bishop
a Bible Ministry
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EASTERN RELIGION
| Posted On: 01/17/08 11:42:08 PM |
Age 64, OH |
I am thankful that you have been delivered from such drivel. This is nothing but eastern religion with 5% Jesus added. I will take the 100% Jesus myself. Lou
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McManus and people like him in our churches
| Posted On: 01/17/08 06:13:23 AM |
Age 57, AR |
I couldn't read the whole article about this man. It makes me sick how we as a church have let this stuff into our churches. It's our fault that we stopped telling people the truth about their sin. If we hadn't had someone to tell us, we'd be doing and practicing the same things the EMC does. Just like the filth on TV, we need to get back to convictions of the spirit, and stop watching that stuff, and write letters and vote right. I'm telling myself on this one. I'm ashamed of what has happened to our church. Now we have to run the heretics out the door. Just like granny used to run me out the door with a broom. I didn't come back in until she was calm and I was humble, or she would've run me out again.
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