D-CEMBER IS A PAGAN NAME
| Posted On: 12/18/07 01:34:33 PM |
Age 64, OH |
Dear friend; you are criticizing others for celebrating the birth of Christ because it was corrupted by pagans. But you are using the pagan months and I assume that you also use the pagan name of the days of the week. These are all named after false pagan gods. If you do not want to use the pagan names of the days of the week you can call them 1st day for s-nday. etc.
You can also use 1st month for J-nuary etc. I am thankful that no man is my judge and I do not judge you. God judges us by the intentions of our heart and not the letter of the law. The letter of the law brings death and the Spirit of the law(Which is Jesus) brings life. Are not the reasons why a man does something more important than the act itself. A man can sing a song of worship to God but if it is not in spirit and truth God will despise it. So it is not the act but the heart of the man when he does it. Lou
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WHEN WAS JESUS BORN A MAN
| Posted On: 12/18/07 01:21:16 PM |
Age 64, OH |
The scriptures do tell us the time in history that God became a Man. It was during the census that Caesar Augustus ordered to be taken.It was the 1st census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria. Many scholars claim this was in Late Sept. or early Oct. Lou
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Thank you for being rational
| Posted On: 12/16/07 04:48:14 AM |
Age 19, CA |
Well, I liked your article. I think that Romans 14:5 is pretty much open and shut on this issue. Furthermore, simply because Christmas began as a Romanized Mass (or whatnot) doesn't imply that it is therefore somehow tainted forever. That's horrible logic. I guess I'm just frustrated at the "Christians" who put more emphasis on, say, not celebrating Christmas than loving their neighbors. I mean, is Christmas honestly something to get this heated about? The answer is no. We have been given this holiday on which love, generosity, kindness, goodness, etc. are all glorified, and instead of taking advantage of this as Christians, some of us are saying this season is an abomination? We should be using our time in wiser ways than condemning our brothers for celebrating Christmas.
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Bah Humbug to Catholicism and Paganism!
| Posted On: 12/14/07 06:06:51 PM |
Age 31, IA |
Here is a link to what Charles Spurgueon had to say about christmas www.calltoworship.org/calltoworship/articles/christmas.html.
Here's another good link about christmas.
http://www.sovereigngrace.net/should.htm
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Christmas
| Posted On: 12/14/07 04:18:42 PM |
Age 61, MO |
Bah humbug! George Cancilla
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Agree!
| Posted On: 12/14/07 02:00:30 PM |
Age 74, OK |
Amen!Amen!Amen!
Check this out!
WWW.TOO LONG IN THE SUN This is the most researched, wonderful, information about Christmas, Easter and the Sabbath that has been hidden to the Church, by the Roman Catholic System. Too long!!! Also,"The Two Bablyons" by Rev. Alexander Hislop. Another good resource comes from the great historian about the Mithraic cult ( the outline of History, )
" He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."
Matthew 11:15, Matthew 13:9 KJV Richard Rives, who is the Author is not SDA. Neither am I. As God warn us. " Learn not the ways of the heathen"................................................................
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Rationalized Syncretism
| Posted On: 12/14/07 01:36:14 PM |
Age 45, MN |
Let's see? The Gospels don't tell the time of year when the King of Israel was born, so let's just observe His birth by consensus, even though Jesus' disciples never did. (Actually, Scripture alludes to the Fall as the time of Jesus' birth.)
Secondly, since most of the "Romish flavor" has been removed through secularism, this scaled back tradition is now more palatable, therefore acceptable. Chalk one up for Secular Humanism palatizing syncretism for believers.
Thirdly, God is honored if something is "done in the right spirit." I guess worshiping the LORD through the golden calf should have honored the LORD, but instead resulted in His judgment. It is not the thought that counts.
Fourthly, let's show that materialism and consumerism (if done in the right spirit) demonstrates to the merchants "the warmth of our hearts, [and] the largeness of our generosity" when we buy merchandise that we really don't need and give it to ourselves. Discipleship through consumerism, interesting~
Fifthly, make Christ known through short Christmas Eve services. Since Christ observed His Father's festivals and calendar, and Christ's birth is not observed until the 4th century CE, and Christ's Mass is not mentioned until the 11th century CE, why even incline one's eye towards Christmas?
Sixthly, sincerity is of no value when one is sincerely wrong. Celebrating Christ's coming through former pagan practices (and in variance to Christ's practices) does not help in the least to "save His people from their sins." This just shows that one is willing to compromise God's ways for traditions (which were not the Jesus' traditions).
Lastly, the "marvelous incarnation of Christ" is not the basis for our salvation. Never was, never will be. Salvation is by God's grace. Propitiation is through substitution.
As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD, and NOT celebrate Christmass.
"Why I don't celebrate Christmas": http://www.torahresource.com/EnglishArticles/I%20Dont%20Celeb%20Christmas.pdf
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WHO IS THE JUDGE
| Posted On: 12/14/07 01:33:16 PM |
Age 64, OH |
Dear Friend; I DO NOT CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS and have not for years but nowhere in the Bible are we forbidden to celebrate the event when God became a Man. Paul tells us to not dispute about eating or not eating meat sacrificed to idols. God does not judge a man by his apparent actions but by the intentions of his heart. The Only One who knows the heart of a man is the Judge the Lord Jesus Christ. But even Jesus reserves judgment until the day appointed. You can not judge the heart of a man, especially one that you have never even met, so why try. For the Holy Scripture does not tell us to not celebrate the birth of Christ but it does say not to judge another man for he is not your servant but the Lord's. Lou
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What about the truth?
| Posted On: 12/14/07 10:27:59 AM |
Age 47, IA |
The bible tells us to worship God in spirit and in truth. Christ was not born on December 25 - this is a lie and it comes from Satan. The celebration of Christmas is a mixture of pagan Babylon's "mystery" idolatry in its purest form, imported through Pergamos (Rev. 2:13) into Rome, and there incorporated into her pagan religious ritual, and from thence introduced into the world by the Roman Catholic Church as a commemoration of Christ's birth. This day of worshipping other gods began long before the birth of Christ. A wealth of proof can easily be produced today to put this fact beyond question. Study to show thyself approved! The Word Christmas is an abomination in itself. God specifically told us - Jeremiah 10:2-6: "Thus saith the Lord, LEARN NOT THE WAY OF THE HEATHEN...FOR THE CUSTOMS OF THE PEOPLE ARE VAIN: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not." If the world accepts something, that should be a clue to us that it is NOT of God. We are truly Babylon and will be judged for perpetuating a lie and forming any union with idolatry - which God hates. "Little children, keep yourselves from idols" (I John 5:21). No where in the bible are we told to celebrate Christ's birth. Repent while there is still time.
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Really?
| Posted On: 12/14/07 09:22:22 AM |
Age 32, OH |
I am usually in agreement with your writing and even put links on my blog, but I find this one to be hard to agree with.
You have mentioned that to superficially worship Christ is a dangerous thing, and I agree. But that is what Christmas is in truth- it was a pagan holiday adopted by the Catholic church in order to encourage conversion. It is a holy day to other gods at its root. Surely we cannot take something that is an abomination and turn it into something pleasing to the one true God.
Also, worldwide acceptance of this celebration by Christians has added fuel to the argument by the Catholic church that they were the only church established by Jesus and that we have all spawned from the Protestant reformation and Luther's theology. There were puritans from the very beginning, worshipping in small autonomous groups as intended without the influence of a state church. Also, the Messianic comunity never recognized Christmas as a true holy-day. I think our recent (very recent- even in 1865 Christmas was not a nation-wide, religious day) adoption of the traditions of men we have muddied the waters of fundamentalism and caused many to doubt the Word because too much must now be given up in order to follow sola scriptura.
I wrote a little piece on this phenomenon at my blog if anyone is interested in discussing it more fully. trainachild.blogspot.com
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