OVERFED AND UNCONCERNED
| Posted On: 12/06/07 05:32:40 PM |
Age 64, OH |
This depends on who you consider the founding fathers. The pilgrims, Washington, and Lincoln did not slaughter the innocent but stood up for the poor and the weak. What you say about GLUTTONY is certainly true. We are told in the scriptures about the Ely priesthood and outward sign of it was that Ely was very fat. Ely ate the fat that was to be reserved for the Lord. The same is true in the church today. How can fat preachers preach on gluttony. Our nation has set a new record never before achieved in the history of man. Every civilization of man has lived longer the less LACK of food that they had. The more food; the longer they lived. The main thing that brought disease was lack of food; and so bring a early death. This is still true today; and in Africa some have only a life expectancy of 39 years, because of lack of food. But this year the life expectancy in the USA has gone DOWN 5 YEARS because of gluttony. This is the first time in human history that this has ever happened. Ez 16:49 " 'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, OVERFED and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.- The church of this nation is so arrogant as to think the Lord would do away with the children of Abraham for being unconcerned and overfed but not do the same to them for the same sin even though they are only grafted in. Lou
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Re: The Seed The Church The Nation
| Posted On: 12/04/07 09:53:58 AM |
Age 30, MN |
Well Dr. Therman a very intresting article, but I see alot of flaws with it. You speak of these pastors interpreting the bible and the gospels the way they want but you are doing the same thing. Jesus never talked about a "spot" in someones eye he talked, about a plank or a tree trunk, and his meaning was not judging someone when it comes to the same sin thats ridiculous he was saying before you are so to quick to judge look at the tree trunk in your own eye never did he mean you can't judge if its the same sin???? One thing I do agree with you about though is the pastors preaching on certain things in order not to anger their congregations, what I see quite a bit is pastos preaching on what I call the "hot button" sins that will get their people in a lather. One of these "hot button" sins is homosexuality which I feel is not gods ideal but it seems this sin is the deal breaker sin these days and these pastors who constantly preach about this to get there church's fired up say they are just preaching biblically. Well if thats the case the number one spoken about sin in the bible which by the way far exceeds the amount of times homosexuality is talked about is gluttony, but i can't tell you the last time a sermon in any church I have been to where this was the pastors topic. Instead we get these hipacritical churches that will only preach about sins they know there congregation isn't guilty of. How do we not preach about gluttony when America is the most disgustinly gluttonous country in the world instead we pick out one certain sin group and villinize them. Dr. therman this is what Jesus meant when he spoke about judging others and looking at the "spot" in your own eye.
Also your potrayal of our wonderful founding fathers is quite eliquint and hollywood like. If you know true american history you would know that this country in the way it was founded was not the way you say. Most of these founding fathers contributed to the murder of hundreds of thousands of native americans, and I may be wrong here but I remember somwhere in the bible it talking about thou shall not kill I don't think they were utilizing their "biblical principles" when it came to the native americans of this country. We murdered and lied and broke every treaty with them and then placed a beutiful title on it to make it ok by calling it the manifest destiny, but wow there motives were sure rooted in biblical principle. Aslo a lot of these "bibliclly principled" founding fathers were slave owners and influencers and supporters of the slave trade. The early years of this country was built on the blood and sweat of these slaves backs you give these founding father way to much credit they don't deserve. Lastly you talk about fighting our enemies foreign and domestic???? What did Jesus say about fighting we can protect are freedoms with force there is nothing wrong with that in a kingdom of the world sense but don't ever say were using force against our enemy and doing it in the name of christ. I find many of the writers on this web site are also guilty of intrepting the gospel their own way and americanizing it please stop. America is not the light and savior of the world Jesus christ is I think this was forgotten when this article was written.
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Re: The Seed The Church The Nation
| Posted On: 12/04/07 09:02:44 AM |
Age 61, MO |
Thank you for the inspiring article. I consider your points well taken and accurate. One line from the article says, "Truth must become the standard again." I would add that greed must be put aside. Without the Christian ethics of honesty and willful giving, the American political and economic system will not work; much more not work than a totalitarian, socialist system. We, in order to be free, must be on the honor system. The closing prayer in this article is extremely appropriate. George Cancilla
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