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"I'm not responsible"
Posted On: 02/01/08 07:50:23 AM Age 45, NJ
George, the "I'm not responsible" ploy never works because God knows our every thought word and deed. And He knows if you let Godless men and women into office. Be responsible and vote Biblically. Patrick Burwell@OnlyJesusSaves.com



Only the Godless Need Apply?
Posted On: 02/01/08 07:47:44 AM Age 45, NJ
Come now, let us reason together... ;) How can we expect to ever keep America the safe haven it is and the platform for sending and going to preach the Gospel from when only the Godless will apply because Christians think they are seperate from the world? So if a man is being accosted you won't defend him because, after all, we are not OF this world? Of course you would. So defend America and get Godly men into office.

Re: Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/21/07 05:33:34 PM Age 19, MN
False. Ron Paul CANNOT save this country. No one can except God alone. Whoever gets in the presidency and Congress still is going to have to deal with God...Republican or Democrat. On my personal position on this, I'm not really happy with Ron Paul...though if he was the GOP candidate and (provided the Dems don't send some conservative themselves, which is probably not going to happen) I would probably vote for him.



Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/20/07 12:57:20 PM Age 53, VA
So, you can't be considered lucid and a "good" Christian unless you want to put people in cages for smoking pot.

Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/19/07 06:46:14 PM Age 44, NC
Here we are in another election cycle and we Christians are still looking to Washington to cure all our ills. In the Old Teatament God told the children of Israel, (Leviticus 18:24-30)"Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: and the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God." We as a nation have given the blood of the innocents to be poured out at the altar of personal comfort. The abortion industry has become the modern day Moloch. Hear the word of the Lord, 2 Kings 24:3-4, Surely at the commandment of the LORD came this upon Judah, to remove them out of his sight, for the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he did; and also for the innocent blood that he shed: for he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood; which the LORD would not pardon. Our land is defiled! Our nation is sick and perverted and instead of us weeping and crying out to God for mercy... we hold a "Values Voter Debate." Where is the statesman who will stand and call for a time of national mourning and prayer? Why, that would be political suicide. Yes we should practice due diligence and be faithfulstewards of the liberty God has given us and vote our consciences in accoirdance with Biblical standards...but... Where is the Daniel of God today! Read Daniel chapter 9, rend our clothes, heap ashes on our heads and cry aloud, "Mercy Lord, Mercy!"



Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/19/07 01:20:53 PM Age 45, NJ
Ok. For all those who absolutely MUST take offense, understand this was SUPPOSED to be tongue in cheek. I'm guessing you missed that.Sorry. .You OBVIOUSLY have an axe to grind, so grind away... whatever good it will do you. As to the others that responded, let me just say I was glad there was this debate. I don't REALLY advocate any particular candidate. I was actually quipping over the fickleness of some to jump at "the drop of a hat." After all, I think you CAN manage to think for yourself here. But certainly those who refused to come to this debate should be given the due regard they gave Christian values. Patrick J. Burwell, Evangelist@OnlyJesusSaves.com

Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/19/07 12:33:38 PM Age 76, TX
Having been raised by parents who were staunch Democrats all their lives, I can firmly state that if they were alive they could hardly believe we are living in the USA. And I am sure they would vote Republican today because the Democratic Party of the USA has become the un-Democratic Party. Mike Huckabee,I think, won the debate. Ron Paul does not share the values of the great majority of Texans nor that of USA citizens. He may come across as sincere, but he is not wise in his thinking. I would rather agree with a 4-star General than by those unqualified Senators and Congresspeople who implied he was lying. As Huckabee implied, it is better to lose on principal than to win by compromise.



Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/19/07 08:12:16 AM Age 31, WI
Wow, the 350 Ron Paul supporters in the entire nation sure do keep themselves busy responding to every little tidbit printed about their "savior." To state that Ron Paul is the only hope for this country is ridiculous! Jesus is the only hope for this country! It is unreasonable to believe that any man can live up to God's standard, but as Christians, we must strive to find a man that places his faith in Jesus Christ and will work within a secular government to foster a moral society. A moral society is the best that we as human beings can hope for. The rest is up to God.

Re: Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/19/07 08:10:22 AM Age 61, MO
Thank you for this comment. Hopefully many professing Christians will agree with you. As a parent, I take full responsibility for keeping my children free from harmful drugs. I certainly don't rely on the government to do this for me. George Cancilla



Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/18/07 02:47:28 PM Age 47, IA
I would strongly suggest you read Pastor Chuck Baldwin's article entitled, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS HAVE ONLY ONE CHOICE IN 2008. You may learn something about Ron Paul - who is in his seventies - you don't need to sound like a worldly "comic" saying he's in his hundreds. You should be ashamed of yourself. Get educated on real issues - like the New World Order, the North American Union, immigration issues, terrorism, etc. issues more important than pot. We need someone like Ron Paul to stand for a US Constitution, which is being thrown out the window. He's also a true supporter and defender of the unborn and family values. By a vowel and solved the puzzle - Ron Paul is our only hope to save our country!

Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/18/07 01:26:17 PM Age 23, FL
People like the person that wrote this article make me sick to my stomach. As a Christian, the hypocrisy shown by those that share my religion is astounding. Every Sunday our preachers teach the lessons of Jesus and love, understanding, and peace. Then we turn around and show ignorance, hatred, and contempt for any people that do not share our views. You want to say that Dr. Paul needs a counselor....but maybe you and others feel this way only because he was the only principled man on that stage last night. You want the government to support your views while restricting others, and you see no problem with that. You want to honor the constitution, yet you have no problem with unconstitutional war. You want to be tough on terrorism, yet you don't want to acknowledge its sources and their reasons. You want to not be treated as second class citizens, yet support the ill treatment towards homosexuals. Innocent people are dying (soldiers and civilians alike) every day in Iraq so we can try and save face. The money well is going to dry up eventually and then what will your excuse be? Who will you blame then? People wonder why the Republican party is in such bad shape as it stands right now, and its because its full of self-righteous hypocrites. Instead of trying to fix problems, the bulk of the party want to continue down this beaten path and not do anything to try and help. Now, you may post this and you may not. You may not even read this. But I will make one point clear. This is a verse I live my life by, and I recommend that many of you that read this also remember it. Matthew 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? How about lets look at our own problems before we start worrying about others. Ron Paul in '08!!



Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/18/07 08:41:04 AM Age 31, WI
I also like Mr. Huckabee, and I truly hope that values voters can unite and focus on getting one candidate elected. However, we will all need to bring our A game, because realistically, I loved it when Mr. Huckabee said he is not for us, he is ONE OF US. Although, the liberals will use that as ammunition against him, and if he can get the Republican nomination the secular humanist will use his words against him. However, should Mike Huckabee fail to show a real chance of getting the nomination, I personally will back John McCain. Granted he may not meet the all of the stringent standards of the value voters, but he is a close second, and he is a very honorable man, and he probably has a better chance at winning the presidency.

Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/18/07 08:32:06 AM Age 61, MO
I was unable to view the Value Voters Debate, so was hoping to learn something from this article. All that I was able to discern was that Dr. Ron Paul needs a doctor; and that Mike Hucabee is Christ like. If I remember right, a lot of people thought President Bush was Christ like. Sounds like the debate was a royal waste of time and money. George Cancilla



Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/18/07 12:56:56 AM Age 59, NM
I am offended by your rude comments about the presidential candidate Ron Paul. They seem to be based on his comments concerning drug laws, but it is hard for me to tell. Perhaps you think he should say something different with this group. Personally, I think he should be consistent. We know that recreational drugs hurt people. Many of us are very concerned about that. We also know that federal laws against drugs are unconstitutional. However, there are two fundamental issues that affect Christians. Drug laws put drug users outside of the counsel of everyday Christians, a practical concern. In addition, drug laws are a use of force that is outside of what is moral force. There is no biblical basis for drug laws. Regardless of where you stand on this, I don't think this one issue warrants such bad-mouthing of a fellow Christian.

Re: The Values Voter Debate was WON soundly by one man...
Posted On: 09/18/07 12:02:04 AM Age 41, WI
Ron Paul isn't senile. He is the only candidate who understands the big picture of returning to the U.S. Constitution. Rep. Paul isn't smooth like Mike Huckabee and he doensn't believe the federal government should micromanage our lives, but Rep. Paul is correct in warning Christians about running to the federal government for every answer to our problems. Do we trust God or Man? I find it interesting that Mr. Burwell fell for the smooth talking Mike Huckabee. I am not surprised because I knew the former governor would pull the George W. Bush talk out and many Christians, unfortunately, wouldn't be discerning enough to see through the clever speech of Mr. Huckabee.

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