Re: The Struggle For Survival of a Christian Civilization
| Posted On: 07/12/07 09:42:01 PM |
Age 57, AZ |
Your bio says you are a recognized historian.By whom? You wrote,"Scores of nations since the time of Christ have grasped at the brass ring of hegemony." You then follow with a statement that has one nation in it.Correct me if I am wrong, but the school I went to taught me that Alexander the Great died three hundred years before the birth of Christ. Mohammed's marauding hordes were not a nation. The Vikings were a bunch of coastal and river raiders. They possessed neither an army or the ability to run a nation state. At best they were good pirates. Since the time of Christ the greatest empire assembled was the British Empire.
You write in 1900 only 1 in 325 people were Christian. You correctly state that now 33% are Christian. Are you telling me that in 1900 the combined population of Europe including Russia,North America,South America, and large pockets in Asia and Africa amounted to only three tenths of 1% of the world's population. The only thing I can figure is the 1900 figure represents some small sect or cult. Christianity as a percentage of the population is certainly much lower in Europe now and slightly lower in the Americas than it was in 1900. If this were true, hegemony thy name is Christianity.
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Re: The Struggle For Survival of a Christian Civilization
| Posted On: 07/12/07 08:24:47 PM |
Age 46, MO |
Another great reminder of history, thanks. Indeed God works through people acting upon faith. A Christian's faith produces good works because Jesus calls us friend IF we know and do the Father's will. A Christian knows and does the Father's will if he daily dies to self and seeks God. Therefore, it is entirely possible for God to work thru his people to perform miracles of grace and power. God desires this because it glorifies Him and strenghtens our faith. God also works independent of His people for His purposes but this does not strenghten faith or glorify himself because it is not recognized as from God. Therfore, a Christian nation can give God the praise and the glory even though that nation or individual may not have come to saving faith. In the past, America was a Christian nation because we recognized and respected the soveriegnty of God in our government, our institutions, our laws, and our manor of life. I hope this helps. John
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Re: The Struggle For Survival of a Christian Civilization
| Posted On: 07/12/07 05:52:06 PM |
Age 47, CA |
Neocon christians love to refer to WW2 where "Those evil Japanese and Germans" Were defeated by "Us good christian nations"
There are some fundamental truths that derail this arguement and more fundamental differences between then and now.
Truths: Christian conduct would have never rammed something as evil as the Treaty of Versales down the throats of the Germans. An equitable peace in 1918 would have prevented the Nazis from taking power.
Without demanding outragious war reprations, the Western nations would not have engaged in the reckless spending and deferring the costs to the Germans. An equitable peace (True Christians would have made one) Would have not only averted WW2 but the great depression as well.
China was a sleeping giant with every western nation pillaging it lik a band of vultures. When the Japanese attempted to join this "Game of grab" The west suddenly began to act rightious. Once again, had the Wwest not engaged in pillaging China, ther would have been no conflict with Japan.
By the way, the Pacific Fleet was sent to Pearl Harbor to make a military threat to Japan. There was nothing cruel about it. We got into thier face and they punched us in the nose.
Differences: Back then, WE were the giant killers. Today, We are the giants to be taken down.
Then, we were repelling invaders who self rightiously claimed to be liberating the world from decadence and brininging order to kaos. Today, We are the arrogant self rightous invaders.
As one inside joke goes in the military: Back in 1945, it was easy to know the enemy by thier Nazi style helmets. Today, WE are the ones wearing the Nazi style helmets."
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Re: The Struggle For Survival of a Christian Civilization
| Posted On: 07/12/07 09:33:00 AM |
Age 44, PA |
There is no such thing as a Christian Civilization. Europe was "Christian" while it went to war with other "Christians" from other countries. If you mean a Cultural Christianity, people who go to a Sunday assembly but are not born-again as a National idenity OK, but the number of Christian in this country is VERY small. If you don't believe me turn on Christian TV!
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Re: The Struggle For Survival of a Christian Civilization
| Posted On: 07/12/07 08:03:44 AM |
Age 62, CO |
Marshall Foster is right! Christians need to exercise their God-given authority through praise and worship to see God overcome the forces of evil, among which today are the Muslim terrorists with their world domination agenda, abortionists, sexual promiscuity and homosexual practices, etc. The Call in Nashville with 75,000 Christians fasting and worshipping was a great start. God has not given up the world, He is just looking for those who will make up the hedge and stand in the gap. Our God reigns! Forever.
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