Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/10/07 07:52:22 AM |
Age 28, TX |
Very good article. I think I might print this one out for future reference, if that's okay.
There's one point on which I'd take a slightly different tack: the autonomy/independence issue. For myself, I don't define myself as a member of a "family" or as an individual currently in one; I define myself by my relationship with Christ. That I now am a wife and mother is a direct offshoot thereof; and my relationships with my parents, etc., have been altered by that primary definition.
I don't mean to nitpick, but I would lay on the table the notion of defining oneself as God does--because He knows us even better than we do!
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Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/10/07 04:59:48 AM |
Age 44, KZ |
Awesome stuff, so true
As in America so too in South Africa.
Humans are only interested in self worship.
ME ME ME.....miles away from Christ
Infact Christ is a joke to many
SAD
Come soon Lord Jesus, the cup of sin is full
Gavin Stone, South Africa
your backup at www.ecr.co.za (speakeasy/politics) would be appreciated
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Re: Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 10:26:07 PM |
Age 41, TX |
We have to be careful as to how we approach discussing the subject of marriage with others. Your position seems to say "living together" out of (granted, a state-licensed relationship recognized by state law) wedlock is acceptable to God. This is a hard position to take as essentially a pagan practice, as pagans also practiced sacrifices. The Old Testament Israelites practiced sacrificing under commandments of the Lord, and indeed, Christ was the Ultimate Sacrifice to take our place so that we would be righteous before God on Judgment Day. Jesus didn't include "officially" being married when He said in Matthew 5:28, "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Clearly, lust is adultery in God's eyes, married or not, where fornication IS intercourse with someone who is not your spouse. It is, however, okay to lust after your spouse without restriction! =)
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Re: Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 09:29:13 PM |
Age 52, IA |
True enough, that Adam & Eve didn't have to go through a marriage ceremony, but if living together constitutes marriage, what about John 4 and the woman at the well. Jesus said she had had 5 husbands and the one she was now with was NOT her husband. In any case, we agree that there is rampant fornication and adultery today, and believers must set the high standard of one man - one woman for life.
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Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 02:52:16 PM |
Age 77, CA |
Thank you for making me aware of this article and of the christianworldviewnetwork. I agree with the article, only think we may be closer to the realization of the end product than the auther even thinks. We are so far gone as a nation, it is difficult to believe it is not too late to turn around and recapture life, liberty and freedom to worship God.
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Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 12:06:47 PM |
Age 39, FL |
Great article, How true. I decided to do what you wrote about in restricting TV/Media coming into our Household and Now I dont even miss it anymore. Thankyou for your article. I just wish other Christians would adhere and take in your message. May God continue to Bless you.
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Cross-Bearing...
| Posted On: 03/09/07 10:54:33 AM |
Age 47, CO |
Excellent article. Simply put, this article expands on the simple but transforming truth that "...If anyone would come after [Jesus], let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow [Him]. (Luke 9:23)
Will we be the "rich young ruler" who loved this world or Peter who said... "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life..." (John 6:68)???
The culture has become such that if we are to follow Christ, we will NOT fit in!
Let us fight the good fight and run the race... Being careful to NOT love this world on their terms, but on His...
"Woe to you, when all people speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets. (Luke 6:26)
"Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and revile you and spurn your name as evil, on account of the Son of Man! Rejoice in that day, and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven; for so their fathers did to the prophets. (Luke 6:22-23)
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Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 10:08:28 AM |
Age 53, IN |
A very fine article. I agree with nearly every point made. The only thing I would question is when the writer got to the part about a couple being at the altar. I realize "going to the altar" has been the practice for hundreds of years but it really is a pagan thing. We really don't require a minister or an altar to be married in God's eyes. When two people have committed themselves to each other in the sight of God and become one they are married. There are no directions in the scriptures that are set out to be followed to marry two people. All those things are man-made. It seems to me that when a man and a woman have "coupled", that is become one, they are married in God's eyes. Which means that young people who have casual sex with a variety of partners, though they may eventually "marry" one of them, have already committed adultery over and over. Or at least fornication. One can be an adulterer before choosing an official mate and going to the altar.
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Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 08:45:54 AM |
Age 43, AL |
Excellent article! It spoke directly to me. Thank you for writing this.
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Re: Debauchery, Barbarism, and Anarchy: Preparing for Our Cultures Future
| Posted On: 03/09/07 08:06:11 AM |
Age 37, TX |
Good article, and a frightening reminder about the future for our children.
This quote from the article is important: "As couples, we must work to have a regular, happy, vigorous sex life....for that is how God intended it." Scripture is clear on this subject, and you hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, as a man, I have seen that too many Christian women conveniently downplay the crucial significance of this.
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