Re: Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 04/05/07 11:39:42 PM |
Age 20, MN |
Well, we will see how they handle the real world.....
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Good thoughts 'atheist'
| Posted On: 02/27/07 03:55:29 PM |
Age 56, OR |
I see you are not really as 'atheist' as you may have been misled into believing. Your concerns are as on the mark as many Christians. This is very interesting, for it is said in the Bible that the things of Creation are self evident, and those that chose to ignore them do it willingly. That means they are DUMB ON PURPOSE, as Kent Hovind would say. It seems they ARE self evident to you, so I find that fascinating.
Now to the word/belief/whatever, "atheist". You do not have to BE the truth to observe the TRUTH. In its observation, if affects you. In actual fact, to agree with God about anything would make you less of an atheist.
This could lead to quite an identity thing really. What if you really were NOT an atheist, yet mistakenly thougth you were. I have girls in my house that are BEAUTIFUL, yet sometimes they believe thay are ugly. Hmm, that poses a definate dichotomy. I suppose that what you MIGHT be is,"an atheist on purpose". I.e. you really are NOT an atheist, but prefer to stay a happy sinner and deny the Lord God. So in that way, you could still appreciate God and His order and the ways we should love and bring up children... but then say; "I like and respect God's ideas, but I don't like God". Perhaps that is it. Oh! Just one more thing. I am always confused by this one. How can you PROVE something does not exist? Thanks for your good comments. PGW
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GIVE ME A BREAK !!!
| Posted On: 02/27/07 03:35:09 PM |
Age 56, OR |
[Not] "productive to blame parents for these societal problems".
Maybe you were away that lession. But 'what is society 101' by God, says that PARENTS ARE THE SOCIETY!!
I hope you do not have any influence on ANY of God's kids!! I do get upset at invertebrates willing that kids be led astray!! PGW
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Re: Re: Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/26/07 04:37:39 PM |
Age 38, CA |
AMEN!
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/26/07 09:30:35 AM |
Age 47, CA |
You might know them as DI's. In the Navy they are called RCC's or "Recruit Company Commanders". When serving as one, I learned very quickly that there is nothing wrong with kids these days that a good leader can't fix. Setting a good example is the most important aspect of leadership. An RCC with a big gut will earn nothing but contempt if he yells "I'm going to get you into shape! Push ups! Begin!" This is not only true in physical training but in every other aspect of behavior.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/24/07 08:34:17 PM |
Age 30, CA |
Amen! One of the most pernicious lies of our culture is that men should not be responsible for their immoral actions because they can't help themselves. Our culture believes that if a man sees a pretty girl, he just has no control over himself. I saw an article written by a man in the paper the other day that was titled, "Men are just weak-minded puppies." Can you believe a man would say this about himself?? This lie leads to many problems. If men are not held morally responsible, it frees them treat women as sex objects and feel no guilt about it. It also allows them to blame the girls. It is always someone else's fault. And this lie has led to the battle of the sexes. A woman's natural response to a "weak-minded puppy" would be to take over for him because he obviously is not capable of handling anything of importance.
As for the sexualized youngsters, they are just modeling the behavior of their parents. I know far too many adults who act like Britney Spears wannabees. Too many adult women are consumed with plastic surgery, implants, liposuction, excessive exercise, loose sex, etc. The pervasive lie of our culture is that the value of a woman lies in her beauty and she is supposed to give it away freely. Too many women go along with this lie to get thier own needs for love met. Parents are teaching their children that it is okay to engage in destructive behaviors. One of my co-workers stated that her daughter is 18 yrs old and has had sex three times, once just to make another girl jealous. The mother's response was, "Go ahead and have fun." Another co-worker told me her son was having sex with his girlfriend in her house. Her response was, "The teenage years are about experimentation." Loose sex has become normal for adults and teens. I feel that the hippie movement has damaged our society. They are now raising their kids to be lost. We need to get Truth out to dispel the lies that lead to destructed lives.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/24/07 08:26:59 PM |
Age 16, MN |
I am glad that the world is finally recognizing the power of role models in children's lives. I recently saw an article about Brittany Spears and her popularity among young girls. I was surprised at the statistics which claimed that 86% of Americans believe that Spears news time should be screened/limited becuase of her influence on children. 78% of those people said that they believed the world would be better off if she didn't have any T.V. time. The majority of Americans believe this and yet nobody protests when her names flashes across the news promoting promiscuity and irresponsible behavior. I believe that the church should be in the vangaurd of protesting and promoting healthy morals. It is time for the church to take a stand on these moral issues.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 06:26:05 PM |
Age 63, OH |
About ten years ago i was invited to a friends house for a super bowl party. I never thought the bowl was very super but went for the human fellowship. Half time came and much to my dismay Michael Jackson was the half time show. This was way before the trial. This was prime time TV and so many children were watching. Jackson started fondling his privates right on prime time and I got up and walked out. The home owner who is a dear friend turned off the TV and came out and asked me to rejoin them. I could not understand why Jackson was not put in jail for such a public display. Years later when Jackson's trail came up and I was asked about it; I said that I would vote for Jackson's guilt because what I seen him do in public to little children was enough that I thought he should go to prison. Is Jackson in prison now. The Bible clearly states that if the church falls into sin then the nation will fall. Yet everyone in the church is calling for someone to repent except themselves. Read the book of Daniel; Daniel was a true prophet of God, yet Daniel repented. Until the leaders of the church repent before our nation and the church nothing will change. This is just all spitting in the Wind. I repent for the nation that I am part of is a disgrace; and the church bears the blame. I am in deep shame; for we have not brought deliverance to the land. Lou
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Re: Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 04:55:47 PM |
Age 43, NC |
So then "compromise" is the key? Materialism is the ultimate goal right? I mean both parents have to work in order to have all the nice things right? NO? Just to pay the bills then? How did we rack up so many bills? Now, both parents are having to work so where does that leave the kids? On their own?!! But that's not the parent's problem eh? Oh yeah, that's right it takes a village... "to raise an idiot."
Satan's plan is working like a Swiss watch. Destroy the family, you destroy the community and the rest will implode on itself. Satan's first act in the Garden of Eden was to attack the family unit. To come between the husband and the wife. He came away with a two-fer he not only caused division between the husband and the wife but he caused division between them and God. The attack on the family today is just as real and just as devistating. The father against the son, mother against daughter, wife against husband and all against God.
No, this is laid squarely on the shoulders of the husband as the head of the home, then the parents of that home to teach, guide, and raise the children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. The parents are the primary educators of their children! That is where it begins and ends, period! It is an awesome and daunting responsibility to bring up godly children, especially in this day and age, but it is our (the parents) responsibility to do just that before God. We are responsible, not the school, not MTV (God forbid), not the government, not the social engineers but we, the parents, are accountable to none other but God alone for how we raise the children He has loaned to us. That we should be good stewards of our children teaching and preparing them for His service.
Who is incharge of our homes? God, through the parents over the children? or Satan and the world through the children over the parents? (one episode of supernanny answers that question in America today)
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Re: Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 02:27:24 PM |
Age 51, TX |
Even amoung christians we seem to have lost our way. What you try to uphold in your home may not be respected in some elses home. We are living out a situation with our daughter who went to other peoples homes and set-up a my-space with suggestive photos and dialogs to her friends. Yet none of the teens came forward or the parents who knew something came forward. We do not excuse the wrong decisions that my daughter made but now that we are isolated from the christian kids because our daughter might be a bad influence on them it seems rather odd. I dont believe we care for our sister and brethern the way the Lord directed us to. Love thy neighbor as thy self well there is just a whole lot of Love thy self.
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Re: Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 01:37:38 PM |
Age 45, OH |
A plan whereby our tax dollars follow our children sounds nice but here's the situation.
Many people don't have children in government schools. Kids too young, Kids too old. No kids at all. Should their money be taken by force by the government to finance the evil of government "education"?
And the real problem:
Legally, any school that receives a penny of federal money (our taxes) must follow federal rules and use the federal program, including all the goals of America 2000/GOALS 2000/No Child Left Behind. So anywhere any child would be sent would be the same as all the other schools. For now, the only way to avoid the evil is to home school. And I don't mean teaching your kids at home using something like William Bennett's K-12 program (which is also aligned with the federal goals).
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 12:35:42 PM |
Age 43, MS |
She's absolutely right. I taught school for three years, and at one school where I taught, little girls as young as six were encouraged to become cheerleaders and move their bodies in very sexually suggestive ways to Britney Spears-type "music." Boys and girls as young as three were forced to attend pep rallies and watch these displays. I was fired from one school, and part of the reason why was because I spoke out against this garbage, and it was a private school which supposedly had a Christian "emphasis." The headmaster was an ordained minister and a pastor, but there were no morals present in that school in a lot of areas. By the way, I was, and still am, an ordained minister, too. But you know, my biggest problem is that Christians don't enforce the commands of God with as much vigor as that with which the ungodly enforce their code of conduct on us. If we did, then this country just might be set back on the right track again. We not only have the right to do it, we have been commanded to do it. "Occupy until I return" comes to mind, as does, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost: TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU:" (emphasis added). In Strong's Concordance, that word "observe" means "to attend to carefully, take care of, to guard." It's high time we take our God - the one true God - seriously. What's bad about the Taliban is not that they take their religion seriously; what's bad about them is that their religion is a false religion. It's a good thing to take true religion, which is Christianity, seriously - very seriously.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 12:30:39 PM |
Age 57, AZ |
Take into consideration which adults actually have the most time of the week to either positively or negatively influence our children? Teachers. And when we see on the news the liberal colleges & professors that turn the teachers loose on our kids & the enforced political correctness in the classrooms; is it any surprise that even if parents or time spent at church functions teaches kids right from wrong, their ability to make a decision about an issue is supressed by external influences.
Our tax dollars pay for this educational system, let's vote into place the plan in which tax dollars follow the child. So that schools which want to allow goodness to thrive will get the tax dollars when we choose to send our kids there.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 11:44:43 AM |
Age 50, OH |
I don't think it's productive to blame parents for these societal problems, though that seems to be the popular thing to do "if parents would only....." Well, we could all become Amish too and not have to deal with it, but given reality and the pressures for kids to conform, most parents must strike the best balance they can.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 10:44:26 AM |
Age 49, MO |
I have four girls, the oldest are 18 year old triplets. We didn't allow cable into our home, playstation, or other derogatory technical playtoys and our girls are the better for it. They find Britney Spears' rants disgusting and a BAD role model at best. Since our girls are homeschooled they don't have the baggage government schools girls have. This is evidenced in their Sunday school class where I teach both home and public shooled kids. Protecting your kids, especially your girls is a must for parents. Stay home and sacrifice by not having to have all new or the latest and greatest. You will be glad you did. You only have one shot at it before your kids are gone.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 10:05:47 AM |
Age 62, GA |
You and your grandmother are absolutely correct -- there is little, if any, common sense today. Psychologists (the APA) just came to this conclusion in 2007. And how long have the Ten Commandments been around? No surprise that psychology (and all of its theories) are so off course! God bless you and continue to share the truth.
Dr. Larry E. Teboe
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 08:53:08 AM |
Age 35, OH |
Even as someone who's worldview is different from your (I'm an atheist), I agree with you completely on this issue.
The way children are thought of, and are taught to think of themselves, is absolutely disgusting. With parents who neglect them, is it any wonder that children cry out for some kind of attention, any kind at all? Instead of being praised and rewarded for ethical behavior, kindness, healthy curiousity and intelligence, they're encouraged to believe that their only worth and the only way to be loved is through being "sexy". Boys are taught that this is the way to thing of girls as well.
As terrible as the wounding of their little hearts and the fact that a child should *never* be looked upon as a sexual object, there's also the tragedy that this idea carries over into adulthood and leaves both men and women with the belief that women are worthless unless they are "pretty" and willing, if not eager, to placate men with their bodies. Look at the way the world judges women - the majority seems to think that the biggest "sin" is to be ugly!
How many bright, intelligent contributors to society do we lose this way? How are men and women supposed to stop having a "war of the sexes" when they're filled with the poison of these misconceptions?It's a situation that's harmful to children, women and men, and it's a crying shame.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 08:32:38 AM |
Age 60, MO |
Ingrid, you have criticized correctly: parents, APA (it doesn't take a rocket scientist; or especially a psychologist). Our fifteen year old daughter was walking through Wall Mart the other day with me and her mother. After passing by the toddler clothes section, she says to me, have I noticed how provocative the real young girls clothing is? We have been having discussions about modesty these days, because my daughter is concerned about wearing clothes that would not unduly attract. We have an understanding that there will be no dating until she is ready to make a committment in marriage. She goes along with this completely, and has even read books by the Ludy's, and Jonathan Lindvall on the subject. To maintain the discipline of our grandparents (and our daughter was not even four years old when all of her grandparents were gone), requires stamina and a firm foot hold in the Holy Scriptures. Many of the Christians that we know (and I purposely am not using the words "friends") are the ones that play into the "television in the bedroom of the kids" and the cute new ideas for clothes and entertainment, that we have vetoed years ago. It makes for a lonely existence, but we can stand correct in the eyes of God, which is the most important thing. Thank you for this article. It lends support where support is direly needed. George Cancilla
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 07:14:41 AM |
Age 53, TX |
Yup! And now the TX. Gov. Perry wants to mandate young girls taking a vaccination to protect them from HPV. This act alone tends to make one think that govt thinks all young girls are sexually active! This is the same Gov. that says we do not need border protection and is helping push the NAFTA super highway that will help create the N. Am Union and is doing nothing to stop NAIS (animal id)in Texas, despite the fact that the majority of Texans do not want it! It is all inter-connected.
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Re: Shocking News from the APA
| Posted On: 02/23/07 05:33:23 AM |
Age 37, TX |
Great column Ingrid! I agree with you completely about the parents being the real issue. I would even take it a step further and say that dads, or the lack of dads is the real issue.
Feminists have done their best to make men in our society irrelevant; and we men have allowed them to do it. In fact, I would even say that we precipitated it. Hear me out...
For decades men in America ruled over their homes and their wives in an unbiblical way. The Bible calls us to love our wives as Christ loved the church. Christ loved the church not in an iron-fisted, do as I say-not as I do manner; but he was a loving servant. Strong and not afraid of conflict, he dealt with people rightly. He showed them their sins, yet befriended them and served them. Ultimately, he climbed up on the cross and took the nails for them. Loving them even to the point of death.
If we (men) had led our families this way in the 40s, 50s and 60s, would the feminist movement have even had a chance to get off the ground? I doubt it. And when the feminists movement came about, instead of looking inward and asking ourselves "why the rebellion?," we saw an opportunity to ditch our responsibilities as men and pursue our own sinful desires.
Men in our society have failed to be the nail-pierced servants of their wives and families. Our wives and daughters will seek love and acceptance in the wrong places; our country will continue to spiral out of control morally, until we love our wives as Christ loved the Church.
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