Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 11/25/08 11:22:43 PM |
Age 61, KY |
Probably about 90%of right wingers have a one track mind, one issue hypocrites, abortion, guns, god , etc.
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Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 11/25/08 11:14:44 PM |
Age 61, KY |
Well Spoken!
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 11/01/06 10:07:00 AM |
Age 66, IA |
I think the article is half right. It's true that the left hates christian absolute truth. But also it is Satan who uses the left to attack the christians. Many on the left have no idea what they are talking about when they attack the right. So I conclude that it is Satan who is prompting them to attack, especially when the attack is irrational.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 03/22/06 11:07:14 PM |
Age 19, MN |
My response to this article??? Maybe the supposed "secular" Left is against christianity because they see the problems the "Christian" Right using the bible to justify everything Republican. Maybe if you focused more on evangelism and not gaining political prominence, they might look at the christian right differently
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Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 08/29/05 07:38:05 AM |
Age 23, VA |
If a similar article had been written by a "secularist," it would be praised as a revealing work of truth about the Christian right. But as it is written by the Christian right, the best defense is that they love to "demonize." I'm sorry - that's a worn out excuse. Disagreement does not make the article dishonest or malicious.
And I do not believe that standing firm to the values that are abundantly clear in the Bible and that all supposedly believe as Christians makes a person "hypocritically self-righteous." In my opinion, if someone professes to be a Christian and yet openly embraces mainstream secular views in a quest to "not appear narrow-minded," they are the one being hypocritical. You either believe the Bible or you do not.
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Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 08/04/05 12:53:47 PM |
Age 50, CA |
Regarding your statement about homosexual and homosexuality and that it did not exist until the 1900's, I suggest that you read 1 corinthians 6:9-10 and leviticus 18:22.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 08/02/05 04:57:20 PM |
Age 30, AZ |
I believe and agree with most of what the Christian Right stands for. I have a problem with how God's Children addresses most of the problems facing our society in today's times. I do believe that as Christians we need to understand that our enemies are not of flesh and blood but of spirit as our Holy Bible states. We need to turn our attention to the scriptures, but to often we pay attention to protest demonstrations, boycotts, and other destractions. From a christian stand point when I see such actions taking place, it upsets and makes me feel ashame to classify myself as Bible taught Blood bought believer. I believe that if we would practice what we say and teach, then we would become a body of hope and resources for what we believe to be christian truths. Our enemy is Satan and his dark forces, legions, and Demons. I don't believe anyone of GOD's childdern can be ruled by the enemy, but I do believe that he has influenced us to divided the body. I do believe that abortion as a birth control devise is wrong, but to save the life of a Woman, there is grounds for it to remain availiable. As to the Liberial Left and it stands on evolution theory. I once strongly believed in it, but the more biological research in studying the physical structure of most animal life forms, I found it to support that GOD does exist and denounces the Darwin/Evolution theory. I do believe that has far as the Homosexual issue. We as christians need to go back and study the Ancient languages of the Bible of Hebrew, Greek, and Christ Language Aramaic. For in many place where the words Homosexual and Homosexuality is misintrupted. In many places this words where replacing temple cult prostitutes, rape, multi-partner sex, and other actives outstand of a marriage/holy union before the Eyes of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST of CALVARY. I do believe that the gap that was caused by the ignorance of our brothers and sisters in the lord is being bridged. I know that the word is being spread to our Homosexual brothers and sisters boughten by his most previous blood, the lamb of Christ. In ending I wish to state that the words Homosexual and Homosexuality did not exist until the early 1900's, due to the medical board was trying to classify the physical attraction of the same sex relationship. I can only hope that the mainstream churches will come to there senses in time before many more lives our lost to SATAN and his domain, due to the lie of that GOD does not love a homosexual. In this the Bible states that he loves us and nothing can seperate his children from his love.
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Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/15/05 11:16:16 PM |
Age 24, ON |
I always thought the "Left" was an ambiguous adjective that broadly described a certain political platform--one that advocated for labor unions, a degree of governmentally provided social provision, graduated income tax, etc. I was never aware that this included certain theological positions such as denying the divinity of Christ, etc. It seems to me some who are politically Left still hold to basic Christian orthodoxy, while others do not.
What is your definition of Leftist?
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/15/05 08:28:20 AM |
Age 42, AR |
Interestingly I believe the answer to this question lies in the very fact that this ministry is needed by the believers today. The left either denies Jesus or the they are huminists who deny the supernatuaral nature of Jesus. Either way the Lord told us the answer in John 15:18 the world will hate you because it first hated Me. The Lord knows that unless you are spiritually born again (John 3) you are blind to the things of God. How can you debate a blind person about the characterists of the color blue.
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Re: Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/15/05 01:30:04 AM |
Age 24, ON |
Exactly which Constitutional rights are the "Leftists" taking away from you?
Also, I don't think your response really gets at any of my reservations about the article. I wanted to see some actual names deployed who would support a view that there is no "truth." You didn't provide me with any names either.
Secondly, I wanted an account of why Christians seem to end up on both sides of the political spectrum. You may want to say, "because they've interpreted scripture incorrectly," but I don't think that is a sufficient explanation. Besides the two red haring issues, homosexual marriage and abortion, what other "leftist agendas" posit an antithetical religious impulse?
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Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 10:03:06 PM |
Age 55, CA |
I disagree with your statement. The "political differences" that you mention are closely tied to the religious differences the author mentions in this article. It is because of our strong Christian beliefs that we, Christians (or believing Jews), so strongly disagree with the Leftist political views. They (the left) are no so slowly taking away our Constitutional rights to OPENLY practice our religion. They are no so slowly eroding the strength of the family unit.
I have to strongly agree with the author. It is our religious beliefs that prevent us from going along with the Left's agenda!
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Re: Re: Re: Why the Christian Right overlook sections of the Bible.
| Posted On: 07/14/05 06:56:23 PM |
Age 43, OH |
You would have nothing to worry about regarding your point of view if God answered to you, but He does not. Whether we agree with God or not changes nothing, except where we will spend eternity. Whether you like what God does or not changes nothing, except whether or not your heart is hardened towards the salvation He Himself procurred for you. Where were you when He laid the foundations of the world, or set the stars in their place? You comments indicate a complete lack of fear towards God Who has the ability to not only kill you, but also to comdemn your soul to Hell. You mock God Who in His wisdom and yes, in His perfect mercy and love, rightly executes judgment on His creation. While you do so you miss that His love is so great that He sent His own Son to live the perfect life we could not live, suffer the penalty for our sin and Who stands at the right hand of the Father prepared to forgive any who will simply repent and believe- place their faith and trust in Him for their salvation from the judgment they deserve.
Luke 13:2-3
Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 05:12:43 PM |
Age 62, CA |
The article is nonsense. The "Christian right" is fond of demonizing the left, and painting them all as atheists or "secularists". It is this kind of malicious dishonesty that brings the "Christian right" into comtempt, not only from "secularists" but by Christians who are not so hypocritically self-righteous.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 04:17:13 PM |
Age 66, OK |
You hit the nail on the head. What is real truth as opposed to what the liberal left believe is truth is like the difference between light and darkness.
Truth is not the concept of man based on the situation.
I love how Henry Blackaby uses the story of Jesus asleep in the end of the boat. A storm arises so fierce that the seasoned fishermen using their physical senses of the situation state that they are about to perish. They think that is the truth of the dangerous situatiom they face.
But no, the Truth is asleep and when they awaken Him, He stills the storm.
Absolute Truth is the person of Jesus Christ.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 03:38:58 PM |
Age 49, NC |
There is entirely too much thought put into this. The Left's main problem with the Christian Right has to do with the Christian Right's desire to legislate its religion. All of that subject matter you named involves the Christian Right trying to legislate its specific beliefs. The Left doesn't care what your beliefs are, but is trying to protect everyone's right to not have to believe or interpret the Bible exactly like you. The Left protects your rights to worship any way you desire. But the left opposes you trying to making the US a religious fundamentalist state, comparable to Iran. Freedom of religion doesn't mean you have to believe just one religion. If you didn't force your religion on others, there would be no conflict. Thank you.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 01:23:13 PM |
Age 60, MN |
The Carlsons have it exactly right...it's a vast difference in worldview. When man is transcendent, whatever man says goes, and that may change as man changes his mind (can you say "Clinton" or "Kerry"?). When God is transcendent, whatever God says goes, and that never changes. God has revealed His truth in His Word. Evangelicals subscribe to the view that it is our job to seek God's truth and His will, and then to align our will to His. That's a far cry from the moral relativism embraced universally by the Left.
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 12:42:23 PM |
Age 23, ON |
I'm not sure this article really helps us understand the "political" differences between America's Right and Left. First, it obscures the issue by juxtaposing a "Christian Right" with a "Secular Left." Secondly, it fails to sight any real political actors that would endorse statements like "reality has no inherent structure or meaning and there is no objective truth." There are some philosophy professors who may make similar statements, such as Richard Rorty, but even his claims are made in light of complex "analytic-synthetic" and "scheme-content" distinctions.
If the authors intent is to clarify the complex relationship between our nations plural religious commitments and political behaviors, this article misses the mark. The political climate boils down to more than a battle between philosophy professors, and includes those who would define themselves as Christian believers and reject the idea that there is no objective reality and yet fall on different sides of the political spectrum. These are the issues the author would have to address to bring his article from unhelpful generalities to something of more use.
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Re: Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 11:58:26 AM |
Age 90, IL |
God does not damn people because they make wrong choices. People go to hell because they've not been covered in the blood of Christ. To promote a theology of Salvation through following the letter of the law is heresy. It is not Christianity. This is not to say we do not follow the law. But we are not slaves to the law. Read your Romans. I understand the need to preach the whole Gospel. People in this forum throw that prhase around a lot. But I want warn you in firm, Christian love...many of you seem to be the stone throwers rather than the people sitting with the woman about to be stoned...counselling, loving, leading, discipling, showing error through patience and grace. God forbid we see your closet. What's in there? Thankfully, Christ steps in and says, I FULIFILLED THE LAW!!! That is the Gospel. Be careful.
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Re: Re: Why the Christian Right overlook sections of the Bible.
| Posted On: 07/14/05 11:23:41 AM |
Age 45, NJ |
>God tells us not to shed innocent blood
Unless you are baptising babies in the womb they are not exactly innocent, until after baptism, so therefore abortion should be OK!
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Re: Why the Secular Left Despise the Christian Right
| Posted On: 07/14/05 11:12:42 AM |
Age 64, IL |
I believe that this article has it absolutely correct. And remember that God does not see the death of a person as we do. Because He receives them back to Him. When they are children especially.
God tells us what His laws are, but man has free will, and has a choice of what their behavior will be. What acts they will commit. Don't blame God for your choices. He tells us the punishment, or the reward of our chosen behaviors. Our beliefs. We decide to follow His road or not. And we will suffer the end results of our own choices and mistakes.
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