Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/15/06 05:20:36 PM |
Age 54, MN |
With all that's going on with the seeker-sensitive movement, and the false theology that abounds today I am completely grieved over this division that has occurred from this website. I am in complete agreement with the author. It's a pity that those isolationists are allowing satan to divide the Body of Christ at a time when we need to stand against the false heresies of today! Unfortunately, it's a perfect ploy of satan and he's laughing all the way to the fiery pit of Hell.
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Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/12/06 10:13:46 AM |
Age 41, NY |
it is very sad and heartbreaking to see this valubale ministry falling as prey to our mutual enemy. as another responder stated, we have not seen anyone on this website NOT defend the gospel message... you all were on the same page. so, who is it that has caused division?
pride, the original sin, is working on both sides. personally offenses have not been dealt with, and are becoming public. meanwhile, we are all forgetting to proclaim the fact that God IS in control, and He WILL have the victory in the end (with or without us). hallelujah!
we are taking our eyes off of that fact, and looking around at the weaknesses of others. if we succumb to the tricks of the enemy, we will become ineffective in our personal ministry and usefulness to God, but, He (Jesus Christ) will STILL be victorious, with or without us! amen.
perhaps we all need to consider that our use of the internet, and the writing of books can quickly lead to pride (i am speaking for myself as well) because we know that our 'voice' is being heard around the world. God usually works in the biggest ways in the smallest of circumstances. we must be careful not to be building a 'tower of "babble"'...which the Lord will divide, for HIS glory to be made known. THE Word is all that matters. i know i need to repent of the 'excessive devotion to books' (and reading on the internet), which is wearying to the body, and i need to fear God and keep His commandments (eccl. 12:12-13). Let us all ask God to create within us clean and pure hearts, that seek to humbly serve Him by preaching the gospel faithfully wherever the Lord will lead us. if we stick to THE job that God has appointed us to do, and keep our eyes focused on HIM, the joy of our salvation will be restored (instead of the anger we feel when we see all that is 'wrong'). only when the joy of our salvation is restored, and the focus of our hearts returns to HIM, will we be effective ministers of truth (and THE light WILL expose the darkness). again, i am speaking for myself as well. let us not be ashamed at His (soon, i hope) appearing... but faithfully doing our humble work, so that we can hear, "well done, good and faithful servant."
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Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/11/06 08:06:29 AM |
Age 54, OH |
Thank you, Mr. Jentoff, for a seemingly impartial and non-judgmental analysis of the criticism that has been leveled against this web site.
I think your comments nicely parallel the events of Acts 15. There were those religious teachers who wished to impos strict observance of Jewish law, even upon Gentile converts to Christianity. Other Church leaders disagreed, so they came up with a peaceful compromise that satisfied both camps--an example of the Christian unity that one of the feedback comments mentioned.
However, later in the chapter, we see a sharp disagreement between Barnabas and Paul, resulting in their parting company and going their separate ways--an example of God's patience in working unity in us in a way that we are able to accept. They did, eventually, reconcile their differences, after all, and their brotherly unity was restored.
Whether those who harshly criticize this web site ever reconcile their differences or not, the spirit behind your comments is kind and conducive to restoration. I appreciate your Christian witness.
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Re: Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/11/06 07:52:00 AM |
Age 46, MN |
"Are we of the "SAME SPIRIT" and lead by the Holy Spirit or are we being led by Ego-centric men predisposed to self agrandizement. I would challenge any minister who inferred I was going to HELL if I did not follow his theology." Paul explicitly warns the leaders of Ephesus that men will arise from within the church and attempt to lead people after them. John states the "they went out from us" as they led people away from the truth and liberty of the gospel. Concerning HELL, I can confidently state that if you do not follow the theology of scripture and repent and believe in the work that Jesus Christ accomplished on the Cross to offer you the forgiveness of sins - you will certainly go to HELL. This is not "my" theology but the revelation of God given to us through His Son and written in the scripture. If I add to or take from the gospel God has revealed to us once for all in the scriptures, then your comment is certainly true. My own words and my own theology, unsupported by scripture, have no authority to threaten to cast anybody into HELL.
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Re: Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/11/06 07:44:25 AM |
Age 46, MN |
The author wished to bring to the light the concepts themselves and named no names to invite those who he considers isolationist into a public debate concerning their ideas and claims. An initial position needed to be drafted, and I have done so. The others may respond if they wish or have arguments strong enough to bear the light of public debate.
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Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/10/06 12:42:43 PM |
Age 36, GA |
Whatever communications this author received from whoever may be offending him did not also go to the readership (at least not to me). As result, this specific, public condemnation appears to be out of place. Why post one side of a dispute when we don't even know what the accusation is. Besides, it looks petty. Whoever said what, rise above it and forget about it. I think most of us readers have.
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Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/10/06 10:36:00 AM |
Age 42, ID |
I read your article with interest. I hope this website does not engage in a continual "battle" against the "previous writers". If you have done the right thing, then let it be and let God defend your actions.
Also, one thing that I think you probably did not mean the way it came out. Even in the Old Testament, the Israelites were rebuked for not sharing God with others. That was their job even way back when. That part did not change when Jesus came, it was just emphasized to a greater extent after he rose again.
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Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/10/06 09:48:25 AM |
Age 66, AL |
The article by K.Jentoft was interesting. Unfortunately it shows the lack of Unity in Christ among Christians. While other secular and political ideologies are trying to bury Christianity in the ash bin of history Christian Leaders are fighting among themselves. Are we of the "SAME SPIRIT" and lead by the Holy Spirit or are we being led by Ego-centric men predisposed to self agrandizement.
I would challenge any minister who inferred I was going to HELL if I did not follow his theology.
I enjoy Christian Worldview and the articles presented regardless of the authors spin.
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Re: Christian Worldview Network and Brannon Howse Under Attack by False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/09/06 03:10:48 PM |
Age 46, MN |
I want to emphasize that I am not meaning to imply that my article applies to all former writers. All columnists have liberty to either continue to write for Worldview or to leave if they wish. I do not wish to have my article used to accuse the innocent columnist who exercised their God-given liberty and left on their own for their own reasons.
Unless you are aware of specific facts to the contrary, we need to give people the benefit of the doubt regarding their choices. My article was targeted at the few who are making this an issue of imposing their conscience upon others and expecting these people to heed their words.
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Re: False Prophets and Isolationist Propaganda
| Posted On: 10/09/06 08:29:40 AM |
Age 30, FL |
I agree and disagree with your article. First I totally agree that you can preach wherever you want. The gospel is for ALL, and should be heard throughout the world. If we tried only to preach repentace and savation to the clean and those we deem worthy, we would be missing out on so many of those Christ was here to reach. But the purpose of associating with those outside the Church was solely for witnessing purposes. Not to build RELATIONSHIPS in hopes that WE would save them by taking our time and telling them everything they want to hear so as not to offend them. 2 Cor 6:14-18, (and this does not just mean marriage). Would someone kindly show me where that point is made. And even when Paul preached on Mars Hill, most scoffed at him and said, let us here you on this again. Paul left.
Of course so many of us today, just stand around and put up with the scoffing. We try to lie to them with the gospel by telling them if they will fill some little hole in their heart with the love from Jesus, they will have a life full of abundent blessing and health and wealth and every other false thing I hear preached. The sad thing is, your all striving to lead people to Christ, but without the unity. Why is it, that Christ prayed so many times that we would be one and it is His one prayer that through my eyes remains to be seen.
We are truly in the days that even Jude wrote about. The emerging, purpose driven church is leading the way to apostosy. The Church is not dicerning anymore. We just accept everything as the gospel truth. We as brothers and sisters should be exposing these false witnesses and calling all to repentace. But they will know us by our love for each other, not our arguing.
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