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Posted: 02/09/11

Christian "watchbloggers" under fire

By Marsha West


A few years ago "the world's most famous Christian blogger," Tim Challies, took Christian "watchbloggers" to task in his piece Evil as Entertainment.  Thereafter, says Tim, "Much discussion, much gratitude, much criticism ensued."  Boy I'll say!


Only recently did I stumble onto Evil as Entertainment and the follow-up he wrote for clarification. 


Tim views Christian watchbloggers (CWs) thusly:


"Day after day they offer examples of all that is wrong in the church. They may vary what they offer a little bit, but what is true of them is that they offer a steady diet of negative content related to the church in general or perhaps related to just one person or one ministry. You know of some of these sites, I am sure."


Oh yes, I know of many of these sites.  And I thank God for them.


What I found disappointing in Challies' blogpost was that he painted CWs with such a broad brush.  He complained that some of them offer negative content related to the church or one person or one ministry while others are: 


 "really just a spiritualized form of YouTube or any other site that entertains by sharing what is gross and base and negative and that does so for the sake of entertainment. There is really no value in watching boys do stupid things on skateboards and laughing when they crack their ankle bones in half; there is really no value in watching the worst pastors in America preach to the worst churches in America. Such sites offer evil as entertainment."


Tim may have a point but it would have been helpful if he had honed in on what a trustworthy CW looks like.  What do I look for?  Firstly, must hold to all the essentials of the Christian faith; secondly, must fall within the pale of orthodoxy; thirdly, must teach sound doctrine; fourthly, must confront false teaching head on.  


The Bereans were the CWs of the early church.  They earned a reputation for checking out what Paul was teaching:


"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true" (Acts 17:11).  (Emphasis mine)


Many modern "Bereanbloggers" are a valuable resource. Those on the front lines of discernment ministries spend hours on end surfing the Net, reading/researching/viewing videos for upcoming articles and/or preparing for radio broadcasts, interviews, speaking engagements, etc., they also update their websites/blogs and respond to phone calls and emails.  Most folks who experience the fruits of their labor don't realize that the majority of Bereanbloggers toil for little or no compensation.  Some spend their own money in order to keep their ministries afloat.  Why do they do it?  To shine a light in this dark world.  Most importantly these champions of truth do it to bring glory to God. 


Bereanbloggers regularly deal with rudeness, insults, intimidation, even threats.   Tim Challies has "been there, done that." 


Which is why it's surprising that he focused on all the "negative information" some CWs generate-and that's fine--but I wanted to hear which sites are the most dangerous and why I should resist visiting them.  In other words, I wanted Tim to "name names."


Bereanblogger Sandy Simpson does just that.  He compiled a list of false teachers whose books line the shelves of Christian Bookstores and posted it on his blog.  Simpson  had good reason for posting the list: books by false teachers are a danger to a believer's spiritual health! 


Unorthodox books are penned by Christian clergy, Bible teachers, lecturers, novelists and celebrities.  These wolves in sheep's clothing knowingly lead undiscerning Christians into unbiblical doctrine, teaching, and phenomena.  False teachers worm their way into people's lives and then lead them into cults and apostate movements such as New Age…Eastern mysticism…Emergent…Church Growth (Purpose Driven)…Word of Faith (health and wealth)…New Apostolic Reformation (Kingdom Now/Dominionism/Latter Rain/ Manifest Sons of God/Joel's Army)… Self-esteem (self focused). 


While I'm on the subject of unorthodox teaching, one of the most dangerous movements in Christendom is "Progressive Christianity" (PC) which is a counterfeit of true Christianity.  PC teaches a false gospel -- a "social gospel."  But it is liberalism repackaged.  PC's persuasive leaders have managed to convince sincere Christians to accept unrepentant homosexuals, lesbians, bi-sexuals and transgenders into the Church.  PCs appear to be good and compassionate, but they're wolves!


This is a topic for another day so I'll move on.


In his blogpost, Tim wondered if he really needs to read and to know about the "seedy underbelly of the church, when such things happen thousands of miles away, among people I will never meet and in places I will never be?" 


Well, yes, it actually does matter what's going on in Twinkle Toes Texas, Tim.  All heresy starts somewhere.  For example, most folks had never heard of Lakeland Florida until Ignited Church and Todd Bentley created the "Lakeland Outpouring" that turned into a circus that ranked right up there with Barnum & Bailey.  You remember Bentley?  He claimed that Jesus told him to kick an old lady in the face with his biker boots to heal her – and he willingly complied.  When Bereanbloggers got wind of this they posted YouTube videos of Todd and the gang to expose the evil that came out of that so-called revival.  Bentley is just one example of why Christians in Maui must be aware of what is going on in churches on the mainland. 


But Tim doesn't see it that way.  He believes "We are to focus much more on what is good than what is evil."


I agree, sort of.  Believers should put our focus on whatever is true, honest, just, pure, lovely and good (Phil 4:8) to show that we are Christ-like and that we're putting our focus on God.  It would be nice to think only about good things, but let's face it.  Wolves like Todd Bentley are scratching at the doors of our churches trying to gain entry! Christians cannot just meditate on lovely thoughts they must take action! When wolves gain entry irreparable harm is done! Wolves that mark their territory on pastor's pulpits will devour the sheep! 


"Do you visit such sites because they have information that you truly need to know?" Tim queries.  "Or do you visit as a means of entertainment? Are you delighting in what is good and true and pure and lovely, or are you finding a strange, sick delight in all that is evil and ugly?"


Maybe some people visit CWs because they find a sick delight in viewing videos that expose so-called Christians in bizarre situations.  Certainly those who post nothing but this sort stuff delight in evil.  This, however, is not the intent of Bereanbloggers!  Not even close!  What they post are the sad facts on the mess that has become the Body of Christ.  They also offer ways to repair some of the error.  


Spending hour upon hour doing research on professing Christians who are up to their eyeballs in heresy is no picnic.  Who wants to watch Todd Bentley's latest on-stage shenanigans on YouTube?  I don't!  Those of us who wish to report accurately on the dangerous doctrines this man teaches have no choice but to watch him in action! 


As a writer on religion and the culture I can attest to the fact that doing this sort of work can be downright depressing.  That's why I take heart in knowing that the Apostles not only reported on false teachers that had wormed their way into the early church, they railed against them.  Most likely they lost sleep over it.  I do!  And so do my brothers and sisters involved in online discernment ministries! 


Biblical accounts reveal that the writers did whatever they deemed necessary to throw a blanket over the flames of hell that were spreading throughout Christendom.  From the beginning Satan has been out to destroy God's people and that sly old serpent has not let any grass grow under his belly. 


Tim's blogpost elicited this response:


"The reality is that the Church is full of false teachers who promulgate false doctrines and are leading many astray…these false teachers have no accountability as they literally lead thousands down the path to eternal destruction…meanwhile the sheep sing their hymns and carry their Bible's to church each Sunday. The cry of my heart as of late is that God WOULD raise up holy men bold enough to call out a falsehood when they see it & call these false teachers to account. They will not be popular because many of these ministries are household names in the evangelical word."


For whatever reason, many pastors refuse to call false teachers to account.  Why will they not hold them accountable?  Is it for fear of touching "God's anointed?" 


It is a minister's responsibility to protect their flock from wolves scratching at the door.  The Lord never called His servant's to be popular -- and He never said they should strive to be relevant!


Pastors were called into the ministry to stand in Christ's stead. 


Pastors are supposed to stand for truth!


Pastors are supposed to be stalwart in the faith!


Ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ are supposed to have grit! 


You remember Jesus, don't you pastor?  He's the Son of God, the Second Person of the holy Trinity, the One who spoke the universe into existence. 


He is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent…


He is God Almighty, King of kings, Lord of lords…


Incomparable, all powerful, magnificent, majestic…


Our God is an awesome God!


Which brings up the question: Why do so many ministers bow before sinful men but do not tremble before a holy God?


Why do Christians not take Paul's warning against false teachers in Romans 16:17 to heart? He said, "Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ…"


Mark them!  Avoid them!  They are not brothers and sisters in Christ!


Returning once again to Tim's blogpost, Pastor Phil Johnson posted this comment:


"I understand Challies' central concern. There is a vocal segment of the fundamentalist/evangelical community for whom an obsession with sensational exposés and nattering negativity has proved seriously unhealthy." 


Later Phil identifies the reason for all the nattering negativity – cowardice!  Phil's exact words were:


"The overwhelming majority of today's evangelical sophisticates would clearly prefer it if no one ever criticized evangelical Golden Calves. Rampant error doesn't unsettle them in the least. They are quite happy to live with it and even actively make peace with it." (Read Phil's entire post here)


Those who are called to serve as pastors and priests should be unhappy with grievous error.  They should be unbending when it comes to preserving Church doctrine.  But many prefer the role of peacemaker.  Funny, because Jesus said:


34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. (Mat 10:34-36).


In verse 35 Jesus is speaking of divisions over people's beliefs or lack of beliefs, about Him.  Even families will divide over disagreements. 


It is far less likely for Christians to fall into error (and sin) when they're in a church that teaches the precepts of the Bible in a clear and logical way.  When Phil Johnson teaches, his "immediate concern is to explain the meaning of specific texts of Scripture and exhort people to apply the truth to their lives in obedience to God."  That's what Jesus meant when he said to Peter "feed my sheep."   Paul warned Timothy to "teach sound doctrine."  This is not an option.  Pastors are commanded to teach sound doctrine yet a large number of believers have no clue what Church doctrine entails. 


"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears." (Emphasis mine) Acts 20:28-31


I'll close with a comment I came across on Tim's blogpost:


"It was a "watchdog" blog that alerted me to the apostacy [sic] that had entered my church of 28 years. There was no help with discernment from our elders. On the contrary, they were quickly finding ways to get rid of people who were not willing to go along with the 'new' plan for our church. Those of us who tried to talk with them were called troublemakers, legalists. I left that church wounded as did many others. From that time on, I have read the discernment blogs because I want to understand new trends in the church so I can warn others and never again be caught off guard myself. I don't go to these sites for entertainment. I read, try to check the sources to verify, and pass on information to others. This has lead [sic] to several family members coming out of apostate movements. Just because some people are being entertained by these blogs does not mean they do not have purpose/ value. If a person is going to the sites for entertainment, then they need to repent and find a more God honoring use of their time."


Copyright by Marsha West, 2011.  All rights reserved. 


Tim Challies' blogposts

Evil as Entertainment


Fighting Fire With Fire


Trustworthy Discernment Sites and Blogs:


Phil Johnson's BookmarksWorldview Weekend/Brannon HowseLighthouse Trails ResearchApprising MinistriesHerescopeKjos MinistriesDiscernment MinistriesOlive Tree Ministries/Jan MarkellCrosstalkblogThe Berean LibraryChristian Research NetworkWalter MartinSola SistersChristian Answers for the New AgeBerean BeaconChristian Research ServiceDeception in the ChurchStand to Reason/Greg KouklLet Us ReasonGood Fight MinistriesJustin Peters Ministries...Slaughter of the SheepDefending. ContendingPonderings from Patmos.  

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List of "Heretical" books includes some Christian classics
Posted On: 03/16/11 02:30:38 AM Age 0, GERMANY
While I appreciate some of the "Berean" bloggers, and I am often shocked to see what is happening in certain parts of the US (I grew up in NJ, but now live in exile in Germany), a balanced diet is in order. Too many Christians read books about the Bible, Christian websites or self help books instead of the Bible. Reading "Berean" websites instead of the Bible is no solution! Also,I found the list of "heretical books" that you linked to a bit absurd. Firstly, although there are a lot of shallow books being put out, compiling a list of "forbidden books" reminds me a bit too much of the way the Catholic Church oppressed those who disagreed with them. A "real Christian" will read the Bible, and compare these books with the scriptures. Furthermore, Meister Eckhard, St. John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila and other mystics of the Medieval and Rennaisance era are a part of church history, and if understood in context, cannot lead a real Christian into error. The fact that New Agers have misappropriated their words to promote heretical teachings does not mean that Christians should be forbidden to read them! And Eckhard did not promote pantheism! The fact is that contemplative prayer was always a part of Christianity, but only a small part- the foundation was always study of the word of God and obedience to God's commands. Today these "New Age" Christians put the cart before the horse, dispensing with God's word, sound doctrine and obedience to God, and just promote mystical experience (which is meant to be the icing on the cake, not the cake itself!). The critique of "social Gospel" also must be put into context. Jesus expected his followers to promote greater social justice among them- we read that his followers "were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common." This did not mean that his followers ran for Roman Senate and tried to get the Roman government to give the people more "bread and circuses! Christians ought to be salt and light in the world, but in America, every discussion that Christians have about morality seems to end up a discussion about how to "take over the government" for Jesus- something that He never commanded His followers to do ("My Kingdom is not of this world")! This is, incidentally, one reason I went into exile! So now, there is a separation in America between the (Republican) evangelical right and the (Democrat) Social Gospel/Emergent liberal left. May God condemn and damn BOTH for thinking that the word of God and the Holy Spirit can be bought and sold for political gain!!! Perhaps we all ought to devote more time to Bible study and prayer!

Don't Be Too Quick to Judge
Posted On: 02/19/11 06:16:55 AM Age 0, CA
I think there needs to be a balance in these types of ministries. But here's my main point, it has been my personal experience with some of these so called watchbloggers, that they are nothing but nasty examples of Christ behind the scenes. It is often obvious by their bitter words on their blogs that they are bitter people, but when THEY are confronted with truth and exposed to their face about THEIR lies, the turn into demonic manifestations of lucifer. But see, they aren't held accountable because they own radio stations and can ban who ever they want from coming on the air to expose them as the frauds they are. I think people need to be VERY careful to remember that while they can dig deep and expose the sin of others, they had better be careful because at some point their SECRET sins will be exposed. Then it will make complete sense when we see THEM go down... we'll think... and they even OWNED a Christian radio station and they were involved in THAT SIN, while bashing another Christian. God won't be mocked. And there is a gentle and graceful and loving way to expose sin, but honestly, personally have been called a heretic by some of these so called discernment ministries, I'd say, the time will come when the accusers will be condemned. Remember the way you judge, will come back to you.

Aren't we all "watchmen"?
Posted On: 02/14/11 02:48:51 AM Age 0, IN
Our Father has instructed His children to "perfect holiness" in the fear of God. To expose the gross error that liters the landscape today is part of the job of "perfecting holiness." Everywhere the Bible tells us to discern good and evil, Tim even wrote a book about that very thing. Not only were we not seeing much fruit in this area before the watchbloggers, there were barely any leaves. But, thanks to the faithfulness of a few, many are now beginning to see results. Watchmen are necessary when the days are evil. We don't need fewer, we need more.

I'm Glad I'm Not Like Them!
Posted On: 02/12/11 04:06:47 PM Age 0, FL
As I read the "black"list of churches, I came to the conclusion that the poster is the only one that has the "FULL" gospel. Isn't it great that we have someone who knows so much and that we don't have to be like "THEM"? After all, we observe all the right teaching, we make sure we go to the right church and observe all the right holydays.

Thanks for talking about naming names
Posted On: 02/11/11 06:26:03 AM Age 0, MN
You were exactly right. It's critical to know is being spoken about, but it's just as important to understand why. As you mentioned, there's a lot of harsh rhetoric even between CWs; a lot of that is unfortunate, but some is necessary, since anyone can claim to be a CW and say whatever they want. We can only evaluate their discernment when we understand their reasoning and the way they apply the truth of Scripture.

Thank you for this post
Posted On: 02/11/11 03:54:38 AM Age 0, VA
As a former SBC deacon and Sunday School teacher, I created a website to post references for the class for their personel study during the week. After a couple years, the leadership gave up on trusting God to add to the church and sustain it by going Purpose Driven. I privately expressed my objection supported with documentation. I was removed as a Sunday School teacher, told I was not welcome to attend Sunday School. That meant my wife and two children obviously weren't welcomed either. What do you tell when your 8 year old son who often sat in your class looks at you and says: "Daddy, why aren't you teaching class anymore, did you do something wrong?" Other shameless things happened. I started blogging about the deception within the Purpose Driven movement. I shared the research of others the exposed the unbiblical nature or pragmatism and the church growth movements. I blog in hopes that someone in a sleeping congregation would see it and wake up to the deception. At first, I didn't even know that the terms "watchblogger" or "discernment" ministry existed. Until I was called one. Call me what you want, I only wish to be called a good and faithful slave. Jim

Proposal for Another CW
Posted On: 02/10/11 08:19:04 PM Age 0, OH
I would like to propose an addition to your CW list at the bottom of this article.

What the Real Problem Is
Posted On: 02/10/11 03:31:57 AM Age 0, WI
It's rather odd that Tim Challies complains about negative bloggers. He has frequently been negative in the past with his reviews, including his writings about Joel Osteen and Rick Warren, etc. Tim's real attitude is, "It's OK to be negative, as long as you do it like I do it." That's the view of a lot of the "watchblogger" critiquers these days. It's OK if I do a podcast slashing at the latest false teacher, but I, unlike YOU, am balanced, fair, theologically astute, erudite and talented. YOU are just a blogger in your pajamas, living in your parents' basement, writing to your three readers. Frank Turk sneers at others like that while he personally shreds others who have a love for biblical truth and are warning. Richard Abanes was afflicted with the same problem. We all need to do what God calls us to, Challies included, and let the false teachers have no peace. It may not look the same from blog to blog, as everyone has their own style and approach. The elitism and "you're not valid as a watchblogger" attitude needs to stop.

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