A question about the flu-Ray Comfort
"Sorry to hear that you're unwell. I just wonder, why are you sick? I mean, really. Your irreducibly complex immune system obviously isn't complex enough to handle the flu, and we all know there's no evolution to make the virus evolve. Did God create the flu? Is it then part of His "mysterious ways"? I'm actually interested in your answer here (for once, I might add), because you often talk about the big things but rarely about the everyday things. What glorious explanation do you have for the flu?" Nathaniel
When God made Adam and Eve He made them perfect. There was no disease, suffering, pain and death. When they rebelled against Him, He cursed them and the earth, and we now live in what is commonly called a "fallen creation."
Study the soil for a moment. It naturally produces weeds. No one plants them; no one waters them. They even stubbornly push through cracks of a dry sidewalk. Billions of useless weeds sprout like there's no tomorrow, strangling our crops and ruining our lawns. Pull them out by the roots, and there will be more tomorrow. They are nothing but a curse.
Consider how much of the earth is uninhabitable. There are millions of square miles of barren deserts in Africa and other parts of the world. Most of Australia is nothing but miles and miles of useless desolate land. Not only that, but the earth is constantly shaken with massive earthquakes. Its shores are lashed with hurricanes; tornadoes rip through creation with incredible fury; devastating floods soak the land; and terrible droughts parch the soil. Sharks, tigers, lions, snakes, spiders, and disease-carrying mosquitoes attack humanity and suck its life's blood. The earth's inhabitants are afflicted with disease, pain, suffering, and death.
Think of how many people are plagued with cancer, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, heart disease, emphysema, Parkinson's, and a number of other debilitating illnesses. Consider all the children with leukemia, or people born with crippling diseases or without the mental capability to even feed themselves. All these things should convince thinking minds that something is radically wrong. Did God blow it when He created humanity? What sort of tyrant must our Creator be if this was His master plan? Sadly, many use the issue of suffering as an excuse to reject any thought of God, when its existence is the very reason we should accept Him. Suffering stands as terrible testimony to the truth of the explanation given by the Word of God.
But how can we know that the Bible is true? Simply by studying the prophecies of Matthew 24, Luke 21, and 2 Timothy 3. A few minutes of openhearted inspection will convince any honest skeptic that this is no ordinary book. It is the supernatural testament of our Creator about why there is suffering... and what we can do about it. The Bible tells us that God cursed the earth because of Adam's transgression. Weeds are a curse. So is flu and all other diseases. Sin and suffering cannot be separated. Again, the Scriptures inform us that we live in a fallen creation. In the beginning, God created man perfect, and he lived in a perfect world without suffering. It was heaven on earth. When sin came into the world, death and misery came with it. Those who understand the message of Holy Scripture eagerly await a new heaven and a new earth "wherein dwells righteousness." In that coming Kingdom there will be no more pain, suffering, disease, or death. We are told that no eye has ever seen, nor has any ear heard, neither has any man's mind ever imagined the wonderful things that God has in store for those who love Him (1 Corinthians 2:9). Think for a moment what it would be like if food grew with the fervor of weeds. Consider how wonderful it would be if the deserts became incredibly fertile, if creation stopped devouring humanity. Imagine if the weather worked for us instead of against us, if disease completely disappeared, if pain was a thing of the past, if death was no more.
The dilemma is that we are like a child whose insatiable appetite for chocolate has caused his face to break out with ugly sores. He looks in the mirror and sees a sight that makes him depressed. But instead of giving up his beloved chocolate, he consoles himself by stuffing more into his mouth. Yet, the source of his pleasure is actually the cause of his suffering. The whole face of the earth is nothing but ugly sores of suffering. Everywhere we look we see unspeakable pain. But instead of believing God's explanation and asking Him to forgive us and change our appetite, we run deeper into sin's sweet embrace. There we find solace in its temporal pleasures, thus intensifying our pain, both in this life and in the life to come.
"As to your question of whether we'd rather see you in Hell due to your lying, the fact you can ask that means you are aware that us atheists are generally more compassionate than you Christians. We don't think you deserve Hell. You do think we deserve Hell." Chris
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Chris… I have no idea if atheists are more compassionate than Christians, but I dare say that you could count hospitals and homeless shelters set up by atheists on the fingers of an armless man.
However, I do have a question for you. Who made you the spokesperson for atheists? Are you the atheist pope? Perhaps when you say "We don't think you deserve Hell," in your mind you are presuming that there is a chorus of atheists "Amen"ing you.
Who we think does and doesn't deserve Hell has no bearing on the issue at all. It is God who has power to kill and cast into Hell. He is the One the Bible says is your enemy. He is the One whose just wrath "abides" on you (see John 3:36). It was only when I understood God's Law that I realized that I personally deserve Hell. Remember, God sees your thoughts. He sees them from perfect holiness and absolute purity, and He warns that every single transgression of His Law (including thoughts) will come out as evidence of your guilt. Think about your sins, then think about the fact that God is rich in mercy and is willing to forgive. If you refuse mercy, you will get justice, and that's fearful.
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BEING BORN AGAIN BRINGS REAL LIFE
Ray, As I read my own post today I seen that I could make it even more clear. If NATURAL death is the wages of sin then the remedy for sin should bring natural life. But the blood of Jesus which is the remedy for sin does not bring NATURAL life but it brings SPIRITUAL life. Man had spiritual life when God breathed the breath of life into man, but when man sinned it brought true death which is spiritual death. Natural death is not real death for our spirit still lives on. Has not Jesus given those who trust in Him to save them real life. But we still die in the body do we not. - Lou Newton
|Posted On: 03/18/09 05:10:11 PM
||Age 65, OH
WAS SATAN IN THE GARDEN
Thanks Ray. You say, "In the beginning, God created man perfect, and he lived in a perfect world without suffering. It was heaven on earth. When sin came into the world, death and misery came with it." WOW heaven on earth, how could it be heaven on earth when Satan was there. 1st- was man the first sinner or did Satan sin before man did. Adam committed the original sin of man but sin had already been chosen by Satan and he was cast to the earth, wasn't he. 2nd- Does not the Holy Scripture say only God is perfect. Can perfection fail. If perfection can fail, does that mean that God can fail. 3rd If perfection can not fail, then how did Adam fail and commit sin. It seems that Adam was NOT perfect but Adam was INNOCENT. Adam was innocent which means he had not sinned yet. But Eve then Adam chose to obey Satan instead of God. They were no longer innocent. But when they obeyed Satan they made Satan their master instead of God. Satan is the one who brought death and sin. 4th- You say their was no death before man sinned. Are you saying that Satan has life. But Jesus says He is Life. Are you saying that Satan had Jesus or was Satan DEAD to the Spirit. Also if there was no death, then why did God put the tree of life in the garden. Would it not be useless in a place where there was no death. In fact after Eve chose to trust Satan instead of God, and ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the tree of life was a great danger to man. God had to get Adam and Eve out of the garden and away from the tree of life or they would be lost from God forever. They would have natural life forever, if they ate of the tree of life, and not need God. But they would be spiritually dead forever and lost from God. They would have been like Satan. Satan does not die like men, but he is dead in the spirit. Satan is lost from God forever. God had to get Adam away from the tree of life before he ate of it also and be lost from God forever. - Did not God say, the day you eat of it, you will surely die. But Adam did NOT die a physical death the day he ate of the tree. He went on to live 930 years. - Is it natural death that came from eating the of the tree. If is was, then why when we are born again of the spirit, do we still die. We have been redeemed from sin but we still die a natural death. The redemption of sin does not save us from natural death, but it does save us from spiritual death. If this is so, then sin did not bring natural death but spiritual death. - Think about this, the animals did NOT eat of the tree, but they all die. Does God punish the innocent for the sin of the guilty. Did not the animals always live and then die, like they do today. - Look in the Book and see that God says,"Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds." The earth produced plants and they brought forth seeds that brought forth plants AFTER THEIR KIND. So we have the same KIND of plants today. Did not Jesus say a seed must be cast to the earth and die to bring forth life. The plants brought forth seeds and then died just like they do today. God told Adam the day you eat of it you will surely DIE. How would Adam know of death if there had never been death. Would it not be unfair to make Adam responsible for something he knew nothing of. There are many more arguments but not much space left. Do not believe the traditions of men but seek God for answers and believe Him. Grace and peace to you. - Lou Newton
|Posted On: 03/17/09 09:15:44 PM
||Age 65, OH