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Hey Jim
| Posted On: 07/13/08 07:39:07 AM |
Age 61, MO |
God didn't give any governance except Jesus Christ. He allowed monarchs and dictators who exalted themselves to such positions, and he allowed a democratic republican form of government in the U.S. He ALLOWED. He did not ordain. So it is erroneous to say that a monarchy was the only acceptable form of government to God. Their is a proscription for civil government in Romans 13, but the criteria is that it bear the sword for the good. It says nothing about what form of government it should be. George Cancilla
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AMEN
| Posted On: 07/12/08 12:16:53 PM |
Age 64, OH |
Amen, Jim I think you have spoken well. Lou
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What Does Jesus Think of Your Words and Heart Behind Those Words?
| Posted On: 07/11/08 08:33:02 PM |
Age 40, NH |
Do you know for sure 48 MO is not a brother? Are you sure he will be, "left behind?" And even if you answer yes to both above questions, would Jesus speak to someone with such a flippant and uncaring attitude about his or her eternal destiny?
We are to speak with grace, seasoned with salt to others, not as though they are a movie character and it doesn't matter in reality.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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GOD NEVER WANTED A MAN TO RULE
| Posted On: 07/10/08 12:31:19 AM |
Age 64, OH |
Hi Jim; But the colonies did petition the King and his answer was to send an army to kill them. They then defended themselves as you say you would. It was never God's will that Israel have a king. God told them that the King would do evil to them just as George did. It was God's will that Israel be ruled by God Himself. God would speak through a man of His choosing like Samuel. Lou
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TJ Was Close to a Libertarian and a Deist
| Posted On: 07/09/08 08:32:31 PM |
Age 40, NH |
I notice you didn't even attempt to debunk TJ's cut and paste job that removed all miracles from Scripture. Wonder why you didn't do that...
TJ took out all the miracles of Scripture because he said that God didn't interfere in the affairs of men. What belief system does that fit? He also sent Bibles along with missionaries to the "savages" even though he obviously didn't believe that Jesus performed miracles or was deity.
TJ was a libertarian (almost) who had no problems with any religion unless it got in the way of another.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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Hey Lou
| Posted On: 07/09/08 08:28:36 PM |
Age 40, NH |
Hi Lou,
There was no REAL guarantee of 13 republics according to the confederate states constitution, it was on paper only. But most importantly, it was a confederacy and not a republic that was the central governmental form.
Most importantly, God did not ordain this with His blessing or institution. When He gave a form of governance, it was a monarchy.
And I would hope to follow the teachings of my savior, His word through others and His actions and allow it while petitioning the government for redress. If it didn't come, it would be a sin to do otherwise (unless there was a real and known threat to my family's safety of which I am commanded in Scripture to protect as much as I can).
What I desire as a man and what God expects are usually different.
Grace and Peace,
Jim
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HOW BAD DOES A GOVERNMET HAVE TO GET BEFORE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEPARATE FROM THEM
| Posted On: 07/08/08 06:20:45 PM |
Age 64, OH |
But the new nation was a confederacy of republics and NOT a confederacy of kingdoms. Do you mean to tell me that if our government came to your door and forced their way in and stationed soldiers in your home against your will, that you would do nothing. Lou
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Rich?
| Posted On: 07/07/08 05:49:30 PM |
Age 55, FL |
I wish I were a filthy rich rapture predictor. Even poor, I am still a rapture predictor, but I still have 30 years to be proved wrong! And if you saw my age, you would see I probably won't know I was wrong, even if I were still alive. Get real. Rapture or no rapture, we will all stand before God. Your understanding of history is what we call brainwashed. After we leave you behind, have Brannon leave you the keys so you can keep posting!
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We must walk with Christ today
| Posted On: 07/07/08 04:40:05 PM |
Age 61, MO |
I agree with all of your comments. We only fool ourselves if we think we are something we are not. George Cancilla
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Does it matter?
| Posted On: 07/07/08 12:29:38 PM |
Age 55, FL |
America is collapsing around us, and you are arguing about Deists. It doesn't matter what the founders were. What matters is what we are now, and what we want to be. America is not what most American Christians think it is. Due to WWII and the Cold War, the government tweaked the history in our texts, and as usual, Hollywood followed suit. What are we now? We are like the Babylonian harlot of Revelation spewing our filth across the globe. It has been so effective that 3/4 of Kiev 14 year olds wanted to grow up to be a prostitute according to a survey in 1998. They see our Hollywood stuff, and believe our people are having sex on pool tables, car hoods, and whatever else Hollywood shows. The NonGovernmentOrganizations (NGO) are taking women's rights, homosexuality, and abortion across the globe. That is what the Orange Revolution was ultimately about, not freedom, but licentiousness. America has been so successful at this that the self-respecting Moslems have been fighting back. Get our house in order, and the Moslem threat will vanish, because no one wants that kind of life these days, but some restraint is necessary. Wake up. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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