SUFFER THE CHICKENS TO COME UNTO ME?

Suffer the chickens to come unto me?

You're looking at a photo of loggers tearing down another old growth rainforest so that leaders of the emerging "conversation" can publish even more books. How many trees do you think the emergents have destroyed for their revolution?

Tony Jones is the latest to kill trees for his new book, The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier. This detailed review reveals much about Tony Jones' concept of a new kind of Christian. He thanks none other than, say it together now, Brian McLaren, for helping to birth his book. McLaren has a lot to answer for.

Jesus, Jones tells us, did not have a statement of faith. Those are evidently the invention of blue-nosed fundies. Who cares what you believe? It's all good, apparently. Jones also gives a colorful account of a chicken slaughterhouse to prove how hypocritical Christians are. We apparently should be forming task forces and conducting impassioned marches at Tyson on behalf of chicken civil rights. Suffer the chickens to come unto me, Tony pleads. Perhaps he sees himself as a sort of fowl rights leader. I don't know. Would that the souls of men were as important to Mr. Jones as these birds. But Tony Jones says that McLaren helped birth this book. McLaren doesn't believe in hell. So there are no souls in danger, only chickens.

In the strange world of Tony Jones and his chicken-rights enthusiasts, evangelical Christians have done nothing good for the world at all up until now. Nothing. We are hypocrites, and we are evil because we care about the state of human babies in the womb and people's souls instead of global warming and gay rights. In Tony Jones' world, Jesus is the same type character trotted out by the liberation theologians in Latin America; Jesus, the revolutionary; Jesus, the re-distributor of wealth; Jesus, the Al Gore-style Captain Planet who will save us from melting polar ice caps; Jesus, the PETA animal rights crusader. But Jesus, the King of King's and only Savior of a soul on its way to hell? That would be fundamentalism, folks. Don't listen to them. They ruined everything.

Tony Jones is yet another revolutionary working for converts in the war against truth. As Christians who are not going along with his spiritual agenda, we must continue to raise the alarm about his false teachings regarding Christianity and the Scriptures. Solomon said that there is nothing new under the sun. Jones' attacks on orthodox Christianity are indeed, nothing new. They're as old as the first challenge in the Garden, "Yea, hath God said?"

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Emergent, Emerging, Emerged, Will Emerge: A Response Posted On: 02/21/08 03:29:49 PM Age 40, PA Sir, Your lack of being able to provide evidence of "emerging types" being like Newkirk and equating chickens and humans shows that you are full of opinion but lack any eidence or truth that could come from facts. Since you are unable to make any rational, truthful or intellectually honest response to a pretty easy question shows that you are operating from a false, limited and ignorant (uninformed) position about the subject matter. The fact that you couldn't stay on message is a sad commentary on what people who claim to follow Christ too often show to the world. I will pray to our Triune God to convict you of your sin in this matter of falsely speaking of others, including myself. Grace and Peace, Jim Emergent, Emerging, Emerged, Will Emerge Posted On: 02/21/08 08:59:09 AM Age 41, WI There are no fixed definitions for who is emergent, emerging, the emerged, those who will emerge. That's the whole point, isn't it? No fixed definitions for anything, God, hell, the Gospel, the atonement. You're postmodern now, so definitions don't apply. That was modernity. You can't claim that your emerging, not emergent because those you are affiliating with don't like definitions of any kind. They're all saying the same types of things---vote liberal, save the environment, salvation isn't an event, it's a process, homosexuality is not a sin, the cross and hell are false advertising for God, everything must change, we need a revolution, everything you've heard is wrong. They are all radicals who are enemies of the cross. Those who are wise will run from anything with the word emerge in it. Suffer the chickens Posted On: 02/20/08 06:03:20 PM Age 61, MO I want to point out a phrase from the review: "...the movement was actually spawned by big corporate dollars, and it is very likely that these youth pastors' discontent for traditional Christianity is more the fault of the seminaries they attended rather than their upbringing." Big corpo has a vested interest in shutting down fundamental Christianity where individualism takes precedence over collectivism, and where God calls the shots. George Cancilla AMEN and AMEN!! Posted On: 02/20/08 03:20:38 PM Age 34, WI Exactly to the point! Who are the real hypocrites, the one's exposing the false docrine of emergent theosophism or the one's who've been consistently preaching the same gospel all these years! In a time of great deception, telling the truth is a revolutionary act! (I think Churchill said this) Please Provide Evidence and Not Just Your Opinion Posted On: 02/20/08 02:25:35 PM Age 40, PA Can you please quote a majority of these "emerging types" (since your statement insinuates that the majority are like Jones and MaClaren and are pro-chicken and anti-child)who insinuate that babies and chickens are morally equivalent? Since Jones, MaClaren, Pagitt and many others are Emergent (an official and identifying group of mainly heretics or biblically ignorant people) and not emerging ([of which I am one] a group of sorts that is notanywhere near the same as Emergent US or UK)maybe you might want to hit the target and not hit those in your party (Christians) ala' Dick Cheney. Grace and Peace, Jim No False Dichotemy, It's False Moral Equivalence Posted On: 02/20/08 12:04:33 PM Age 41, WI It isn't that God doesn't care about animals, it's that these emerging types are insinuating that there is moral equivalence between caring for chickens and caring about the slaughter of babies. The church of Jesus Christ has made peace with the murder of 50 million human children whose blood soaks our nation's soil. To insinuate that we should be out crusading on behalf of chickens when we have failed to stop the butchery of humans is outrageous and deserves nothing but scorn. When the human blood stops flowing, then we'll have time to worry about chickens, not before. really? Posted On: 02/20/08 09:42:41 AM Age 37, MD Is it possible that Jesus cared (and still cares) about more than just two things? Babies lives, and saving souls could be 2 things on a much longer list of "what Jesus cares about" I think I smell a false dichotomy...