RICK WARREN FINDS THE MISSING LINK!

Rick Warren Finds the Missing Link!

"Global Strategist" and apostasy enthusiast Rick Warren was at Georgetown University yesterday and declared that "faith-based organizations" are the missing link to solving the world's problems. Wiccans apparently would qualify. They do, after all, have faith. The future of the world, he declared, is religious pluralism. But what is religious pluralism anyway? Doesn't that just mean tolerance for those of different beliefs who may live in your neighborhood, i.e. avoiding the Muslim propensity for burning down the houses of elderly Christian converts? (While they're inside.)

Here's what Harvard University's Pluralism Project says it is:

"First, pluralism is not diversity alone, but the energetic engagement with diversity. Diversity can and has meant the creation of religious ghettoes with little traffic between or among them. Today, religious diversity is a given, but pluralism is not a given; it is an achievement. Mere diversity without real encounter and relationship will yield increasing tensions in our societies.

Second, pluralism is not just tolerance, but the active seeking of understanding across lines of difference. Tolerance is a necessary public virtue, but it does not require Christians and Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and ardent secularists to know anything about one another. Tolerance is too thin a foundation for a world of religious difference and proximity. It does nothing to remove our ignorance of one another, and leaves in place the stereotype, the half-truth, the fears that underlie old patterns of division and violence. In the world in which we live today, our ignorance of one another will be increasingly costly.

Third, pluralism is not relativism, but the encounter of commitments. The new paradigm of pluralism does not require us to leave our identities and our commitments behind, for pluralism is the encounter of commitments. It means holding our deepest differences, even our religious differences, not in isolation, but in relationship to one another.

Fourth, pluralism is based on dialogue. The language of pluralism is that of dialogue and encounter, give and take, criticism and self-criticism. Dialogue means both speaking and listening, and that process reveals both common understandings and real differences. Dialogue does not mean everyone at the "table" will agree with one another. Pluralism involves the commitment to being at the table - with one's commitments. " (Source: The Pluralism Project)

Note that pluralism is not about acknowledging diversity, but actively engaging it and making friends with it. Here's the important line: "Mere diversity without real encounter and relationship will yield increasing tensions in our societies." Translation: If Christians insist on their exclusive views of salvation through Christ alone and refuse to participate in ecumenical/interfaith dialogue and even worship, they will become a threat to public order in our global society. Note in point number four that dialogue is based on give and take. I get it. You give me a pentagram and I'll hand over my cross. Then we'll have world peace, right?

Read through the points carefully again, and you will see where Rick Warren is taking evangelicals. His beliefs about pluralism explain why he can go to Jewish synagogues and never mention the name of Christ, or appear at secular conferences or shows like Comedy Central and never once mention Jesus and the way of eternal salvation. He's content to let them believe what they want, he'll believe what he wants, while we meanwhile all hold hands, talk endlessly about "God" smiling down on us as we fulfill our purposes and work to solve the world's problems. (Not, of course, the problem of eternal damnation of souls who are lost without Jesus Christ. I am not sure Rick even believes this any longer. You cannot believe in the Gospel and believe that Christ is the only way to heaven, and fail to share it with so many who are on their way to hell.)

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Interview with Rick Warren? Posted On: 02/22/08 10:30:30 AM Age 51, NE Ingrid.....have you asked Rick Warren for an interview? End Times Posted On: 02/07/08 10:05:47 AM Age 47, MO Positive yes, optomistic NO. If someone is an optimist, they don't understand the times, the soul, or prophecy. The times are the end and many will fall away from the faith and even from reason due to the nature of sin. Prophecy is doom and gloom for the world with the hope of redemption at the end. Our hope is not in this world but in Christ. As for grace and mercy, the Lord offers them equally to all. We are to be humble and obedient to the Lord. John Well said! Posted On: 02/07/08 01:50:38 AM Age 52, CA Here, here & rah, rah!! Herb I agree Posted On: 02/06/08 11:52:53 PM Age 60, CA I attend a average size conservetive baptist church in orange county ca. And obviously I have conservetive theology views. Mega churchs stir up my curiousity so on occasion I venture out and see what's up. I been to chuck smith's calvary chapel santa ana, greg laurie's harvest christian fellowship and of couse saddleback church. I think one could spend hours pointing out problems with all these mega churchs but I try to make it to one of the sunday night services at saddleback every sunday because I feel just as blessed from one of rick ryans messages as my own conservitive evangelical pastor. Maybe we should be more concerned about the theistic evoloutinist biologly professors at biola univeristy. Destruction through P.E.A.C.E. Posted On: 02/06/08 11:48:09 PM Age 36, NM This is yet another example of the increasingly deceptive usurpation of true Christianity that heralds the anti-christ religious system. Speaking of the culmination of what we are now seeing, Daniel describes the anti-christ as one who "... by peace shall destroy many ..." (Dan. 8:25, KJV) Wouldn't it be ironic if this prophecy turned out to be the fulfillment of what is now being put in place through the P.E.A.C.E. plan? I listened Posted On: 02/06/08 09:57:36 PM Age 33, MS I listened to the 28 Jan sermon at the link you provided. It underscores my concerns with Mr. Warren. With a national audience, he did not discuss the need for repentance. He did not discuss Jesus' substitutionary death to redeem fallen man. Instead he talked about making Jesus the CEO of your life so that you could do great things for God. I'm not questioning Mr. Warren's personal salvation, but I feel that he, like many of us, is squandering opportunities to make an eternal impact on people through the gospel of Christ. Hear, Hear! Posted On: 02/06/08 09:13:23 PM Age 33, MS Great response. Thank God I don't have the responsbility to judge someone's heart, but we must speak truth in love. Very well said. Posted On: 02/06/08 08:42:44 PM Age 40, KS I have been thinking the same thing of this web site lately. No one ever says anything positive about anyone. It has become a site to do nothing but criticize other Christians. There is no mercy or grace. I heard about what Rick Warren said in his speech. My understanding was that he was saying we have a pluralistic society. Not that pluralism is a good thing. It is what the world is seeking, but he is not encouraging it. I just finished a study done by Rick Warren and Chuck Colson and they talked about knowing truth and that the only truth can be found in Christ. They were right on. So I am very skeptical of this talk that Rick is calling for pluralism, and I am absolutely aghast that the author questions Rick's own Christianity. As for the above post, it is important to learn the truth and be educated on proper doctrine, but without love and mercy, what good are they? RE: Combatant polemicist or Compassionate paraclete? Posted On: 02/06/08 08:11:20 PM Age 44, IN The Lord Jesus Christ, Paul, John, Peter, and Jude all warned of false teachers, false prophets, false christs, and the importance of right doctrine. Why? Because of love. Warning people of dangers is a loving thing to do. Thanks for the article Ingrid. Response to: Has Anyone Asked Rick Warren? posted by Age 61, Mo., Posted On: 02/06/08 06:38:11 PM Age 69, GA You are in error when you state that the murderer was saved through Rick Warren's ministry. You are referring, I presume, to the murderer who kidnapped a young woman, who then read to him from Rick Warren's book, "The Purpose Driven Life." You should be aware that this murderer was NOT born again. In fact, I never read anything quoting him as saying he HAD been converted. Instead, AFTER that event, he converted to ISLAM while in prison! Perhaps, had the young woman read to this murderer from God's Holy Word, the BIBLE, the murderer would have had an opportunity to hear the true gospel. Sadly, all he heard was the PDL trashing of the word of God. I get tired of people berating Ingrid and others who are sounding the alarm. Spend some time reading Paul's epistles. In one epistle, Paul said he spent three years, night and day, weeping and warning about false prophets. So what's wrong with Ingrid following in his footsteps? Wake up, people. The Church is sliding ever more rapidly into apostasy, and Rick Warren and others of his ilk are leading the way. If a false teacher's teachings are spread worldwide, then he should be chastized WORLDWIDE, also!