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Posted: 01/09/08

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Obama, the Muslim Thing, And Why It Matters

by Pamela Geller


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Flaw in your reasoning, perhaps.
Posted On: 01/20/08 01:34:46 PM Age 28, TX
We run into problems when we evaluate the truth of a statement based on the person so stating, rather than on its factual truth. How many people have discounted Christianity because the likes of Pat Robertson speaks of it?--Mrs. Pilgrim

Authentic Christians Must Prepare to go Underground
Posted On: 01/15/08 07:25:21 PM Age 64, OR
If you are not daily studying the Word of God, are not praying without ceasing, are not praying for spiritual discernment, are not building a close knit group of like-minded real Christians, then you will succumb to the secular humanists and religious globalists (ecumenicals) and experience becoming separated from God by deceit. From Genesis to Matthew to Revelation, Satan "subtly deceives" by many means. He's done it THROUGH former president Bush (Sr.), overtly through Bill Clinton, and subtly through G.W. Bush (disgusting). ALL of the current presidential candidates (excluding Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo) have ties to the globalist agenda of a one world government, one world religion and one world economy. A vote for any of them, including Mike Huckabee (apostate professed believer), is a vote for the destruction of America. Wait and see.

Re: You are correct
Posted On: 01/14/08 01:04:11 PM Age 56, OK
If you are referring to me believing what 59 TX said, you need to read my response agian. In it you will see the word "some". Is your name slick, willy with an enjoyment of playing the mind games? Now how many millions of "Christians" died also in the camps? Nothing is ever said about them, why? No monuments or rememberance for them. Christians don't give a hoot anyways. Come to think of christians don't give a hoot about all the hundreds and hundreds of millions of christians that have been murdered, targeted for genocide. They don't even care that they and their children are still a target for genocide. Why is it you and others want to hold over the heads of christians what one man did? What about Lenin who was jewish, and his extension of Marxism? How many millions of christians died because of him? The ole Anti-Semitism buzz word. Anybody that is a true diciple of the bible knows what semitism or semitic means. That remark is a buzz word used only to cause guilt or fear. Semitism is a word referring to the descendents of Shem. This includes, Isaac, Jacob, their descendants, the Arabians, Ismaelites, 6 sons of Abraham by Kutra, the Assyrians, Syrians and others. The big lie is that it's meaning is exclisive to jews only. Ponder that. Let me give you alittle help to get started. Let me use Arabians for the help point. If someone is prejuduce against a person of Arabian descent, that is anti-semitism. All it is referring to is predjuce toward the seed of Shem, and there is a reason it is only the seed of Shem, but I won't get into that. Check out and let me know if these people are anti-semtic.

A Response to post on this thread
Posted On: 01/13/08 03:45:00 PM Age 56, OK
Age 59, TX is right in some of what he/she says. I do not have the space nor time to go into detail on all the comments posted in thread. I just would like to make a few statements. First this DNA stuff one of the biggest hoaxes going. That's right, hoax. They are preying on the ignorant. One question needs to be answered and that's where did they get their DNA to compare with? Better may be not where but from who? No where in the Bible does it say that the jews are God's choosen people, no where. No where does it say the jews are the apple of God's Eye. Israel is not a peace of land it is Jacob. You also have to define what you mean when you say Israel. Most people mean the jews, and the jews only. This is incorrect. There are 2 houses, The house of Israel and the House of Judah. No one group of people make up both houses. And what is The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion all about? I will admit one thing for your post, you gave the book alot of free advertisment. You say it was proven wrong many years ago. My question is, who said they proved it wrong? If a person reads Ann Rand's books then reads the Protocols they will find out where she got her strategy for her stories from. Alot of people believe Ann Rand's writings. To the person who claims that the starter of this post needs some history lessons, I think you need alot more history learning than the starter of this thread. I would like to ask you a question, where did you go to learn your history? I want to be sure no one I know sends their children there. Concerning the jews, Jesus Christ said this: Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. The question to be answered is, what "nation" is that?

Fact about Obama
Posted On: 01/13/08 11:38:19 AM Age 64, OR
Fact: Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and later moved to Indonesia with his mother and Muslim step-father. Obama was raised for many years in Islamic schools and indoctrinated in Islam. Fact: Barack Obama has NEVER recanted his Muslin teachings or beliefs. Even his current church affiliation in Chicago is "pastored" by a RADICAL pro-Africa agenda and is anti-Israel. Obama's pastor told him that it may get to the point that Obama would need to 'distance' himself from his pastor to further his political drive. Obama has proven his beliefs to be more of religious socialism than Christian - so, DO NOT TRUST THIS DOUBLE-MINDED MAN. HILLARY CLINTON IS ALSO DOUBLE-MINDED. THE BIBLE TELLS US TO NOT FOLLOW SUCH.

You are correct
Posted On: 01/12/08 12:37:03 PM Age 57, CANADA
It is of great concern to me that someone could believe what Age 59 in TX believes. It is barely 60 years since the Holocaust and to find that such anti-Semitism exists is extremely unfortunate. Perhaps it is time to re-read authors such as Corrie Ten Boom who lived in a time of rampant anti-Semitism and see what suffering that caused.

Obama: Muslim
Posted On: 01/11/08 07:44:12 PM Age 54, IN
If we don't defend and proect Israel and the homeland no matter who's elected WE'RE DOOMED to eternal judgment!

Nation of Israel
Posted On: 01/11/08 04:08:47 PM Age 48, CA
I believe it was God that created the nation of Israel.

Allah and Jehova are NOT one and the same!
Posted On: 01/11/08 11:00:00 AM Age 33, PA
Sadly, you do not understand that the difference in what Muslims, and Jews and Christian believe about God. "Allah" in the Koran is almost an exact opposite in nature as Jehova/Yahweh, the true and only God of the Bible. It is not just a "different name" they give to Him. Yahweh is a God of Love and Allah is a God of Hate. There are many differences and if you read the Koran/Quran, you will quickly see this. The problem with thinking that Muslims and Christians/Jews believe in the same "God" but just dispute over Christ as Messiah and whether Israel is the Chosen nation, is that it feeds into the common belief today that "all of us worship the same god but just have a different path to getting to him". This is heresy and apostasy of the worst kind and what will lead to the end times deception and great falling away from the faith. Yahway/Jehova is the only God and as propesied and testified, Jesus was and is the Messiah, the Word, who is God and was with God, and proclaims "I am THE Way, THE Truth and THE Life...noone comes to the Father but Through Me". We need to understand how this Truth is being perverted, questioned, and twisted today, in the sake of unity, polictical correctness, and peace. We need to KNOW the Jesus we follow and love, to be able to defend our faith, and to stand unapologetically for the truth that HE is the ONLY Way....not just one path to the Father (who is clearly NOT Allah!).

What Obama Realy Believes
Posted On: 01/11/08 10:46:55 AM Age 33, PA
Here is some info from Truth or I am not sure that a President must be a Christian, however, Obama shows what is happening in the world today in that he claims "Christianity" while denying that Christ is the ONLY way to God. This is the same apostasy being fueled by the Emergent movement. Sadly, President Bush, Billy Graham, and Robert Schueller have the same belief in an "all roads lead to God" theology. View this Youtube video: . . . This is contrary to Christ's own words, "I am THE way, THE truth, and THE Life, NOONE comes to the Father but By Me". We either believe HIM and EVERYTHING He said, or we cannot claim to be His (i.e., Christians). . . . An article Scott Turow on in 2004, said that while in Indonesia, Obama spent 2 years in a Moslem school then 2 more in the Catholic school. In terms of actual beliefs, Obama told Falsini that he has a deep faith "...rooted in the Christian tradition." He added, "I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people, that there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and that there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived." He said his mother "...was a deeply spiritual person and would spend a lot of time talking about values and give me books about the world’s religions and talk to me about them. Her view always was that underlying these religions was a common set of beliefs about how you treat other people and how you aspire to act, not just for yourself but also for the greater good." He also told Falsini, "Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of our civic religion. I am a big believer in the separation of church and state. I am a big believer in our constitutional structure." Regarding his conversion experience, Obama said, " It wasn’t an epiphany. It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them. For me, I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me." Critics have said that his Christian faith is a political choice to help his image and conceal Islam in his life. Supporters point out that his conversion took place before he ran for any public office. In the Falsini interview he said he reads the Bible, although not as much as he wants to, and that prayer is a part of his daily life but not in the formal sense. "I think I have an ongoing conversation with God. Throughout the day I’m constantly asking myself questions about what I’m doing, why I am doing it," he said. "The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that if people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they’re going to hell," he told Falsini. She said Obama did not believe that he or anyone else was going to hell and that he wasn't sure he was going to heaven either. "What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, aligning myself to my faith and values is a good thing.”

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