CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN

CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN

By Jan Markell

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The "religious Left" is at it again.  The National Council of Churches (NCC) is praising absolute evil, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  Is there a positive word to say about him? Perhaps that God loves him in spite of himself.  Nonetheless, I think it is time the "religious Left" take off their clerical collars and come back to reality.  They represent many people of faith and while many NCC leaders and participants are leaning very liberal, there are still good people in their churches who stick around to make a difference. They should protest with righteous indignation.

Very recently a delegation from the NCC praised Ahmadinejad as a pious person and a witty man.  "He comes across as a very religious man," said their Associate General Secretary for Interfaith Relations.  J. Daryl Byler, Director of the Mennonite Central Committee Washington Office described Ahmadinejad as having a measured tone, sounding reasonable and having a witty personality.

Byer sent a letter to President Bush stating that he wished he would meet with the Iranian leader, calling Ahmadinejad "bright and engaging." Byler went on, "Like you, he is a religious man, Mr. President. I believe you would enjoy one another's company. Your conversation could signal a positive change in a relationship severed more than 25 years ago."  Shades of Mike Wallace, I know. He's a man we can do business with.

So just what are some of the characteristics this NCC outfit must admire:

*  He sponsors some of the world's worst terror groups by giving them money, weapons, training, and spiritual justification.

*  He has harbored some of the world's worst terrorists, giving them shelter, protecting them from retaliation, including many from al-Qaida.

*  He has motivated many to kill innocent Americans, Israelis, and others in the most despicable means.

*  He kills Americans in Iraq by shipping arms, terrorists, and money to the war zone. He destabilizes the fragile Iraqi government, encourages the killing of Christians, Kurds, and Muslims who don't agree with him.

*  He leads a regime that has lied about its nuclear plans for years.

*  He cries "death to America" and says Israel should be wiped off the map.  And, he denies the Holocaust even though he is trying to create another one.

*  He is a mad man driven by messianic visions and expectations. It is up to him--Mahmoud Ahmadinejad--to bring in the Muslim Mahdi messiah, and then it's really duck soup for the rest of the world.  It would even be fatal to the National Council of Churches in spite of their acclaim of him.

So do the National Council of Churches' reps think maybe he will convert to Christianity?  Miracles still do happen. But Ahmadinejad believes all must convert to Islam starting with George W. Bush.  But the NCC is among the crowd who thinks we can do business with a nuclear Iran, and we can all get along.  If we treat the guy right, things will be fine. Remember, he is "very religious" just like the NCC. So what if it's a different faith. It's more "religiosity."

The NCC delegation included leaders from the Mennonite, Quaker, United Methodist, Baptist, Episcopal, and Catholic churches. I think they need to do a reality check. There are some outfits you don't do business with and this is one rogue regime that leads the pack.  We are not dealing with a man with a full deck. Ahmadinejad's comments while on U.S. soil recently should have sent a message loud and clear to outfits like the NCC that holding hands with a man like this could lead to unbelievable consequences. Trusting his word could be fatal to nations, not just individuals.  The entire Middle East could go up in flames. An oil crisis the likes of which no nation has yet seen could erupt, and Israel could be devastated by Iranian missiles at any time.

But remember, Israel is just "the little Satan."  When outfits like the National Council of Churches praise a guy who calls their own country "the great Satan," you know strong delusion is running amok.

I suggest rather than doing a "Minnesota-nice" job on Ahmadinejad, the NCC reps share the gospel with him and tell him he needs a Savior, not a Mahdi.

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness..."(Isa. 5:20).

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Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/28/07 04:04:35 PM Age 52, CANADA Hey! Wake up! What is going on with those who are representing your churches? I am stunned to hear that Christian leaders can think of Iranian president Ahmadinejad to be anything but arrogant and many other adjectives not nice. But look at his face. For me, it is not the truth that I see in his eyes. It is not the truth that I hear from his mouth. How is it possible that some of your christian brothers praise this man? I saw him speak at Columbia University, read many of his speeches at the United Nations sessions. I think he is someone we should be afraid of. His goal is nothing less than conquering the world (with the nuclear)for Islam and preparing the throne for the Mahdi/Messiah/Savior. Of course, this Mahdi is not the Lord Jesus Christ. In the Revelation, it is written that when Israel and the world will ask for "Peace and security", it will happen. Haven't you noticed that "Islam" means Peace? I just hope and pray that the real followers of Christ won't be hypnotized or seduced by this man of evil. Re: Re: Re: Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/13/07 04:51:45 PM Age 30, IA Sounds like you need a history lesson. Re: Re: Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/11/07 04:32:06 PM Age 72, AR Just to correct a bit of history: The slaughter of the people who lived in North America at the time of the original invasion by Europeans still is the most complete holocaust ever committed by one people against another people. And it was done entirely in the name of Christianity. You can even draw parallels to the crusades and to today's situation of conflict in southwestern Asia through the self-justifications of calling another person or group pagans, savages, etc. Incidentally, until Martin Luther began the Protestant Reformation from within the existing heirarchy, the term "Catholic" had not yet been applied to any group and there was only one Christian church. By definition, isn't a Christian individual or group any that claims to be such? Re: Re: Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/11/07 02:40:59 PM Age 61, MO You confuse "anti semitism" and "hate" with truth. George Cancilla Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/07/07 11:28:19 AM Age 64, OK Jan, I'll agree with you on the wcc. This is an insert to this article you can read all of it at. © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com THANK YOU R. KELLY TESTING THE FAITH Bush: All religions pray to 'same God' 'That's what I believe. I believe Islam is a great religion that preaches peace' Posted: October 7, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern All religions pray to 'same God'... 'That's what I believe. I believe Islam is a great religion that preaches peace' President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003 Bush made the statement Friday in an interview with Al Arabiya reporter Elie Nakouzi. Al Arabiya is Al Jazeerah's top competitor in the Mideast. As the president and Nakouzi walked from the Oval Office to the Map Room in the White House residence, Nazouki asked, "But I want to tell you – and I hope this doesn't bother you at all – that in the Islamic world they think that President Bush is an enemy of Islam – that he wants to destroy their religion, what they believe in. Is that in any way true, Mr. President?" "No, it's not," said Bush. "I've heard that, and it just shows [sic] to show a couple of things: One, that the radicals have done a good job of propagandizing. In other words, they've spread the word that this really isn't peaceful people versus radical people or terrorists, this is really about the America not liking Islam. WELL I'VE REST BECOME A RADICAL Re: Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/07/07 08:54:39 AM Age 20, NC Mr. Cancilla, a few things I need to point out potential concerns: First, would you have opposed our involvement in WWII following the attack on Pearl Harbor and the subsequent declaration of war against us by Hitler and Mussolini? Second, you lumped Christianity as being involved in the Crusades when it was Catholicism (which you correctly stated earlier was NOT Christianity)? Third, what did Christianity have to do with the American Indians and how they were treated? Last, if the "bullets and bombs" doctrine is erroneous, what suddenly makes the apostate NCC credible in just negotiated "peace"? Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/04/07 02:23:13 PM Age 72, AR Evil is a word that should be avoided whenever possible. It is not defined in this article, and may be undefineable. It is a code word for certain people that means to the user "You should hate this because I hate it." and to the reader/listener "I will hate this because I am supposed to agree with this user." There is no thought involved at either end of the exchange. This is a powerful and urgent discussion that deserves adequate definition, meaning verbiage every reader will understand. As it stands, this article is raw and inflamatory vitriol without meaning or substantiation. It reads like a lawsuit, not an analysis of a situation or even an essay of advocacy. Re: Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/04/07 01:24:13 PM Age 69, NH I agree with the article completely and I think it was very well written. For those few people who might think the wording was vitriolic or offensive, I wonder if they might have reprimanded John the Baptist when he called the Pharisees "a generation of vipers." Jesus himself pronounced the 'woes upon the Pharisees in Matthew 23:13-34 where he repeatedly called them hypocrites, fools and blind guides, who outwardly appear righteous, (can we substitute religious?) but within are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. The Lord, himself never minced words when dealing with evil when he came upon it. Maybe some should ask themselves if in their so called tolerance they are not attempting to "out-compassion" our Lord. Re: CALLING EVIL GOOD AGAIN Posted On: 10/04/07 11:42:17 AM Age 62, WA With all due respect George calling this article a "hate article" is inaccurate and labeling it as such causes you to join the long line of those who would like to see Christianity and yes, God Himself, not to mention free speech and freedom of religion removed from our daily lives here in America. In reading the article I didn't see any "hate" there but a genuine desire to understand why the NCC would promote and praise a man who has vowed to wipe us all off the face of the earth. I've read President Ahmadinijad's letters to President Bush and to the American people and I think until you have read those words straight from the man's own mind and pen you cannot possibly understand what true hate is. Yes, it is wrong to call evil good but the NCC has done just that. So, are we to blindly agree with the NCC or are we to remain silent on the subject so that we are not accused of writing hate articles? I think we Christians have done both for far too long and it's time we took a stand, not only for what we believe in, but more importantly, it's time we took a stand for Jesus. After all, He took the cross for us. Pray for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Conversion Posted On: 10/04/07 11:08:05 AM Age 21, MO I am going to pray for a massive Saul to Paul type conversion of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. What a powerful testimony to our Great God. Saul was a massive persecutor of the church and wanted every single person that claimed Christ to be killed. Much like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants with everyone who doesn't claim Allah is God and Muhammad is his prophet. Yet God chose Paul as the primary instrument to bring the gospel to the gentiles. What if God did the same with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad towards Muslims. I am going to intercede and plead mercy to God for the soul of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. I ask all of you to join me in this. Make it a massive church wide plea to the Father. Don't relent until Mahmoud Ahmadinejad comes to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.