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Re: Re: Re: Is this a money issue?
Posted On: 05/15/07 10:36:08 AM Age 45, IA
Ken? Ken? You still out there? Your silence on this speaks volumes.



Re: Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/11/07 01:42:10 AM Age 36, TX
While I agree with your sentiment (take the matter directly to a brother first) I don't think anybody is planning on stoning Mr. Warren or Mr. Murdoch to death so bringing that verse to bear on this discussion seems pointless. I would also question the new-agey concept that "all sins are equal". Scripture clearly shows us that some actions are sins while others are considered abominations to God. Jesus himself pointed out that there are "weightier matters". When we cause a brother to stumble or a person who is lost to consider Christ less because of our actions, isn't that a greater matter than my personal sin that does not impact others around me directly? Just a thought...

Re: Re: Is this a money issue?
Posted On: 05/10/07 02:33:51 PM Age 40, MN
"Better luck next time." ??? What is this, a game show where the host is competeing against the audience, trying to one up them? What a strange way to end your post Ken, what do you mean by it? I'm really interested.



Re: Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/10/07 12:56:04 PM Age 37, MN
http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Document.aspx?id=B224C88D-3D13-4652-9D22-33FD2D80FD2C There's a 2006 businessonline article claiming it. By : Rupert Steiner - City Editor 12/02/2006 "RUPERT Murdoch, the born-again Christian who chairs media giant News Corporation, has been secretly building a stable of wholly-owned pornographic channels for his BSkyB subsidiary...."

Re: Re: Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/09/07 06:10:08 PM Age 34, CANADA
As I see it, the big problem here is that Rick Warren speaks sloppy. What else is new? Sure, if Murdoch is a Christian, Warren has a responsibility as a friend and brother to admonish him -- but so does every other Christian.



Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/09/07 02:41:48 PM Age 43, FL
This is quite a bizarre story, including the news that Murdoch is a born-again believer in Christ. Depending on Warren's true role in Murdoch's life, I agree that he has some responsibility, but I do have an issue with the article itself, especially with the title. To title this article the way you did is to use a tactic that would make the worst part of Rupert Murdoch smile. In essence, it insinuates that porn is part of the life God has in store for us just like worship, evangelism, fellowship, discipleship and ministry. I understand your point in the story, but Jesus had some harsh words towards those who attributed a work of the Holy Spirit with the demonic, and I can personally attest to the way the Holy Spirit has worked in my life and my churches' through the emphasis on the 5 Biblical principles upon which the PDL is based. I write this not to try to accuse you, but to encourage you to be careful how you attack the splinter in a brother's eye.

Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/09/07 02:16:36 PM Age 41, ENGLAND
Hi quote "WOW, you people have no idea how a business runs do you!! You are acting like Rupert Murdoch took the pictures himself and published them. The guy can not micro manage every photo printed in the paper."" I'm in England and i can tell you this quote is naive..The Sun is the biggest selling tabloid paper in my country..The page 3 topless shot is as famous here,as celeb gossip is in the The National Enquirer..True Murdoch doesn't micro manage the shot,but he knows its in there..He KNOWS the Sun inside and out,apparent with his dealing with the printer in the strike of the 80s..



Re: Re: Is this a money issue?
Posted On: 05/09/07 12:39:54 PM Age 40, MN
What did you really mean Ken? Look up apparently in a thesaurus and here's some of what you find "in fact, actually, evidently, obviously" and in the context of the sentence, these fit perfectly - fess up - this is exactly what you meant to say? That is precisely the point and connection you want us to make all through your article, why do you act like it isn't?. //And you avoid the question - did you try to talk to Rick Warren about this matter before trying to shred him publicly? // Wasn't the entire purpose of you piece, not to right a wrong, to help somebody get back on track - but to discredit Warren?

Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/09/07 10:51:11 AM Age 52, KY
Doesn't Rupert Murdoch own the copyright to the NIV Bible? Maybe we should examine some of the mushy passages that have been rewritten in the name of "antiquated kjv" which wasn't so hard to understand after all



Re: Re: Purpose Driven Pornography: Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Discipline Rupert Murdoch
Posted On: 05/09/07 10:22:27 AM Age 49, TX
I do agree with you that when a brother is 'overtaken' in a fault that any initial confrontation about his sin must be done one-on-one and after much prayer and self-examination (Gal 6:1). However, there is no way you can biblically justify shirking your responsibility to God with an excuse that the pornography your company produces "is just business", and that the burning of that filth and stopping its future publication cpuld any way be considered micro-management. Whether Mr. Murdoch believes it or not the wealth given to him was by God alone and "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required" (Luke 12:48). 30 mem lost their lives and their families all suffered because of Achan when he took of the 'accused thing' in Joshua 7. Did those men have anything to do with Achan? In somewhat the same sense Christians suffer rebuke from the world when those like Mr. Murdoch, who claims to be a Christian, loves the pleasures and profits of the world more than he loves God.

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