In this session Mike interviews Pastor Bill Rillo from Hyde Park Baptist Church in Cincinnati, Ohio. Pastor Bill talks about the dramatic changes he saw in his church after he started teaching through the Bible, line by line. He discusses some of the weaknesses in many modern churches and the problem of false conversions. He also talks about how we should not structure a church based on our ideas, tradition, how we were raised, or what the culture is doing. We don’t need the world’s marketing ideas to build a bigger church, we have the Word of God.